Cead míle failte mo thóin – at least north of the border


Two women have written in two separate papers reently and both articles are informative. Placed beside each other, they tell us something about the nature of our society, north and south.

In the Belfast Telegraph two days ago, Finola Meredith pointed out that race hate crimes in the north are on the increase, particularly in Belfast. Over the past ten years, how many such crimes?

“Hundreds. Hundreds and hundreds of innocent people beaten and bloodied and driven from their homes. Scared to walk along their own street. Desperate for somewhere to belong, but terrified to live in a neighbourhood where somebody has scrawled ‘locals only’ on a boarded-up house, and their windows get broken every week.”

On average every day, Meredith says, two racist crimes happen here in the north, particularly in Belfast.  And it’s getting worse. In the first three months of last year there were 103 race crimes; in the first three months of this year there were 156.

Meredith makes two other telling points: the official figures are probably far short of the real total, because a lot of attacks go unreported; and it’ s hard getting convictions, since local people are afraid they’ll be subjected to similar brutality if they act as witnesses in a case.

Why do these attacks happen? The excuse you’ll hear is that immigrants are creating disturbances or that they’re “taking our jobs”.  Lame or what? The real reason for these attacks and the reason they so frequently happen in unionist working-class areas, is that to bolster your self-image, you need someone to look down on. Now that nationalists are beginning to emerge from the role of second-class citizens, another inferior hate-group is necessary.  Immigrants? They’ll do nicely. Easy to identify as well, from their language or their colour. Not to mention all those funny cooking smells.

The second article was in the Irish Times  yesterday. Genevieve Carbery reported how Polish diplomats thanked the Irish people for their welcome in this country over the last ten years. They did it by way of a video and with considerable good humour. What’s more, the video’s in Irish, with English sub-titles.

“Thank you for all the cheerful and easy-to-read books” the voice-over says, showing a woman reading Ulysses  upside down. “We thank you for the healthy food” – showing a plate of greasy Irish friend breakfast. And so on. Ending with “Most of all thanks for being so open and making us feel at home for the past ten years”. The video ends with Police embassy staff shouting “Go raibh míle maith agat a mhuintír na hÉireann!”

Now tell me this: which group – Finola’s bunch of knuckle-draggers in the north or these Polish people in the south – are making the more constructive contribution to Irish society?  On second thoughts, don’t answer that.  It’s be too depressing.

65 Responses to Cead míle failte mo thóin – at least north of the border

  1. Seán Connor April 25, 2014 at 9:07 am #

    Said on Twitter before Jude, I truly and utterly hope the Polish/Romania/Black families under attack in the North by Loyalists do not mistake these people as Irishmen. I say this as last year’s twelfth Australian tourists thought it was “Wonderful Irish music” – As funny as that may appear, since it would annoy Orange-men, people thinking we were associated in anyway with these mobs would be most distressing

    • Jude Collins April 25, 2014 at 10:06 am #

      I understand your frustration, Seán – but awkward fact: these are our fellow-countrymen doing these things.

      • Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 2:06 pm #

        REMEMBER LEST WE FORGET. The nerve of you lot

      • Seán Connor April 26, 2014 at 12:39 am #

        Well, if they class themselves as British, and we as Irish… Are we really fellow country men? (I would argue the North isn’t even a country but matter for another day)

  2. Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 10:12 am #

    To bolster up their image someone to look down on. Mmmmmm!!!!!!! People thinking we were associated in any way with these mobs mmmmm!!!!! Well there you have it you are a bitter lot, I have watched RC in action and listened to them, on TV.
    The two corporals that were savaged dehumanized by good Christians allegedly.
    Oh aye and for good measure ‘ what ever you say say nothing’ lying politicians.
    Give am head piece, I could give you a list from now to next week.
    My catholic brother and sister in law work with Polish foreigners, they tell me all sorts especially when it comes to over time. The mix is 90 percent to ten in their favour.
    On yes and my very catholic mother in law who I might add is very pious well I could not write or repeat what she would do, but I suppose she is from the old school, PLEASE DO NOT LABEL EVERY LOYALIST PERSON THE SAME AND I WILL DO LIKE WISE GODS STRUTH,

    • Jude Collins April 25, 2014 at 10:32 am #

      Good morning, Norma. Nice to see you firing on all cylinders.

      First, I didn’t ‘label every loyalist person the same’ – I drew attention to those responsible for race crimes. Where nationalists are guilty of racism, the same applies – although it is noticeable that the attacks on immigrants appear to happen rather more frequently in loyalist areas.
      Are you saying “They come over here and take our jobs” Oh dear, I hope not.

      • Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 10:41 am #

        No that’s not what I am saying. I like many Irish people have worked abroad.
        I lived in Germany and witnessed it with Spikes and Turks. Not nice. I already told you I lived in South Africa. Don’t twist my words you and Sean did anger me I am absolutely furious with you’s who do you think you are.
        You know when the Irish are out of Ireland they fined each other, they hear the voice the accent, and none of this shite matters

      • Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 11:17 am #

        Did the Irish not burn down an embassy in Dublin and shoot the ambassador.
        Memories ah we cannot erase then, I once worked for a very famous company in Belfast were I was the minority, not another prod about the place. It was 1981/2. The fauklands war was on. Boy did I get first hand entertainment into how hateful my fellow country men could be. Of course they got the smile knocked off their face in a few weeks time. I spoke my mind clearly then as I do now. Viva the Malvinas, talking if which any chance we could pope Francis to talk about the disappeared , that’s a whole new other story eh Paul.

        • paul April 25, 2014 at 5:47 pm #

          An embassy can be replaced, 14 innnocent civilian can not be.

    • MPG ..... April 26, 2014 at 11:13 am #

      Ooops, the mask slips! But then,if the cap fits …………

  3. Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 10:26 am #

    What is the statistics in the two areas for foreign nationalists. Maybe they don’t like living in the lawless catholic areas, or afraid of joy riders. Or Italian mafia gangs.
    I have just had a brilliant idea why don’t you all go and live in Poland and let the Poles live here.
    To all my fellow PROTESTANTS know your place and claim your space, they are chip chip chipping away at us get out and vote and unite and fight this evil. How dare you talk about us like this WE US WE MADE THIS COUNTRY ALL OF IT. All the beautiful buildings you see like Dublin castle don’t forget where they came from.
    When the planters arrived here no roads not even a two Storey floor. Boy am I cross.
    You never ever hear of PROTESTANTS going to live in catholic areas but Catholics come to live with us. Because we are decent law abiding respectful people.

    • Jude Collins April 25, 2014 at 10:36 am #

      Oh dear Norma – you are cross this morning. You’re also preaching a gpspel that reeks of imperialism. I expect the native people of America/Africa/Australia/New Zealand etc should be equally grateful for all the nice buildings their conquerors built. Really, Norma. I know when you think about it – even you don’t say it – you’ll agree with George Orwell’s definition of imperialism, via the mouth of one of his characters in the novel ‘Burmese Days’: “Imperialism is when you go to somebody else’s place, kill him and take his things’.

      • Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

        New Zealand. Mauri
        Australia. Aboringe
        SHALL WE GO. What’s the point we are here now even two minutes ago is in the past. No catholic has the right to point the finger at any one. You commited the most heinous of crimes.
        You owe a debt to the Protestants. If it was not for them you would still be paying for indulgences, how many are divorced, use contraception and have had abortions. You are more like us than ever before. And if you all stood up and told the truth there would not be one who has not made a RACIST comment.
        Go on tell the truth for once.

    • Seán Connor April 26, 2014 at 12:41 am #

      Explain the chipping away Norma? Parades? More parades than ever. Flags? Look around, more flags than ever. Media coverage? Got that covered as well, but more so because of the violence.

  4. Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 10:34 am #

    Oh yes and for good measure, many years four to be precise I met a lady from Dublin traveling to Portugal. Her children could not get jobs or houses from the Dublin corporation because you have guessed it. STOP THIS PROPAGANDA NOW JUDE ITS BAD. You could have got a job with the brown shirts and the hitler brigade. Let’s talk about the catholic family shot out of their home last night naw don’t want to talk about that. CEAD MILE FAILTE

  5. Jude Collins April 25, 2014 at 10:39 am #

    Norma – we can’t keep talking like this. I’ve no sooner responded to one comment than blimey, here’s another! I’ve said already – any act of racism stinks, regardless of who perpetrates it. Propaganda suggests false information. I don’t think any of my information on this blog is false. Except Finola Meredith and the irish Times writer were feeding me lies…

  6. paul April 25, 2014 at 10:41 am #

    Norma, your catholic pedigree in marriage can’t hide your obvious sectarian overtones. i.e.

    ‘lawless catholic area’s”

    ‘my fellow PROTESTANTS know your place and claim your space.”

    “fight this evil”

    plus the entire last paragraph

    You could have married the Pope and that still would not hide your prejudice

    • Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 11:02 am #

      No you do not like my frankness. My mother in law loves to go to Clonard but is afraid for our car????
      You lot have never gave up in the last twenty years about our lot . Every thing offends you.
      I do not have a catholic pedigree, I would defend my right to exist as much as you would. I can assure you I am very strong in who I am. And my catholic husband tells me often I was the makings of him. He remains a strong catholic in his faith.
      I am not bitter I just do not let people walk over me. When any body speaks up to you’s or goes against you’s we’re bitter.

      • paul April 25, 2014 at 2:43 pm #

        ‘you lot” My case is made.

  7. Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 10:51 am #

    Jude believe me when I tell you I would like to be your friend but it is hard going to try to understand you. Why do you keep harping in about imperialism colonialism is it not in the past now at least for the south.
    Was all the past popes not conquerors, send armies out to kill. Read SHOGUN about the Jesuit priests in Japan.
    Please Jude I have a headache now. Does Meridith work for the VO that explains it
    Did not the old ancient Ireland have a Queen Maive.

  8. Jude Collins April 25, 2014 at 10:54 am #

    Ha ha Norma – no, I’m not laughing at your headache…No, Finola isn’t a VO columnist as far as I know. Of course past popes were conquerors and vile men. Not all of them but enough. Queen Maebh – I know little of except she was a warrior queen and she didn’t try to colonise England…

  9. Ceannaire April 25, 2014 at 1:06 pm #

    Norma, I know Jude has to be respectful to you and he has tried to be. I have read your posts over the last week or two and have come to the conclusion that you are a bitter, backward looking woman whose views no longer have any place in this world.

    You have mentioned, in this thread alone, to insult, vilify and demonise the Catholic community here. ALL OF THEM.

    You engage in what is known as whataboutery. In an article expressing concern about the rise of racism in this part of Ireland (especially from Loyalist areas simply because that is where the vast majority of attacks are occurring) you mention an embassy burnt down, Pope Francis, the Disappeared and other, quite frankly, irrelevant nonsense.

    Catholic areas to you are “lawless”. Catholics “owe a debt to the Protestants”. Catholics are liars “if you all stood up and told the truth.”

    “You never ever hear of PROTESTANTS going to live in catholic areas but Catholics come to live with us. Because we are decent law abiding respectful people.”
    More lies, Norma – plenty of Protestants live in Catholic areas. Your idea that Protestants are decent law abiding respectful people and Catholics are not (how else are we to translate that last sentence?) is sectarian, untrue and laughable.

    You’re mother in law “fears for her car” at Clonard – guess what you are implying here?

    Everything is “our lot” and “your lot”.

    Another gem is “What is the statistics in the two areas for foreign nationalists. Maybe they don’t like living in the lawless catholic areas, or afraid of joy riders. Or Italian mafia gangs.”
    So Catholic areas are lawless, especially with joyriders and mafia gangs, according to you and we are to accept this garbage?

    Norma, plenty of foreign nationals live in Catholic/Nationalist areas. The vast majority live without any problems whatsoever. I wonder why?

    Recently, one of the top policemen here stated that the UVF in east Belfast were ethnically cleansing the area. Yes, Norma – Loyalists.

    Your one dimensional view of the world is quaint, simplistic and downright dangerous.

    • Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 2:13 pm #

      These are my views and opinions! I stand by them.

      • Ceannaire April 25, 2014 at 2:37 pm #

        These may be your views and opinions, Norma, but they are still wrong.

        Any chance of you being a REAL Christian and apologising for your constant vilification of the entire Catholic community in this part of Ireland. Your intemperate language does you no favours.

        Your views and opinions are based on ignorance and/or sectarianism – and that is being kind.

  10. Am Ghobsmacht April 25, 2014 at 3:02 pm #

    Dr Collins

    (I hope the full use of your name displays the seriousness of my tone)

    This is a very bold article.

    Hats of to you sir.

    I shall contribute my unworthy two cents and hope that they are digestable in some way.

    First of all, in parts of NI/the North we are brought up to beleive how different we are.

    For example, where an American might see an Adams V Adams, a McGuinness v Magennis, a Campbell v Campbell (i.e. the exact same fractuaous Celts fighting each other) we see hundreds of years of differences, mistrust and hatred.

    You might see a Pole, someone else might see a Sobieski; sure the Sobieskis claimed to be Stuarts who were the enemy of King Billy….

    We were/are brought up to belive that one group of Gaelic-Anglo Celts is utterly different from another group of Gaelic-Anglo Celts.

    This is not an excuse, merely a sick window to NI.

    I hate the interior of this window.

    I am married to a Catholic slav.

    The thought of some knuckle dragger hurting her for the Frankensteined memory of a Dutch King with minimal respect for Presbyterians, Scots, Irish or heterosexual relationships is enough to make me burn the Orange hall I used to paint as a teenager.

    This must stop.

    This needs a brutal remedy.

    Mixed schools is a start.

    But it is certainly not the end.


    BTW Dr C, should someone attack your house, please consider me as part of the vigilante crew.

    I’m not strong but by Christ I’ve a decent kick…

  11. Am Ghobsmacht April 25, 2014 at 3:21 pm #


    I just read Norma’s comments.

    Alas, I must sever my links with an alleged ally as (even though we’re both Huns) I cannot embrace her beliefs.

    For example:

    Are all nationalists in NI responsible for the deaths of the two soldiers at THAT funeral?

    Certainly not.

    Does Republican = nationalist = Catholic?

    Sometimes, but not quite.

    Actually, in theory, Republicanism is a grand and noble concept and I admire its martyrs.

    Nationalism not so much (its ANZAC day here. lets get drunk on nationalism and alcohol everyone!) and as for Catholicism, well, I’ll leave that to another blog (hear that St Brigid?!)

    ‘Your lot’ could quite easily be ‘my lot’, for example, you’re an academic, I’m a wannabe (and never shall be) academic.
    Should you appear in a pub in Glasgow then much merriment could be had, but, according to Norma, should we meet haphazardly in a Belfast pub then mayhem should ensue.

    I hate this logic.

    Norma is scared by the Newsletter.

    I have met unicorns.

    I know Protestant republicans.

    Her world is crumbling.

    Your world is getting stronger,

    My world is just plain weirding people out.

    But who will be last man standing in 30 years?

    Norma is an example of the fear that unionists have regarding a united Ireland.

    It’s quite clearly nonsense, but, if it exists in some one’s head then it is an issue.

    Please, take care of it.


  12. Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 3:44 pm #

    You miss my point when I brought the two soldiers into it. Of course all Catholics were not responsible. Just the same way not all Protestants attacked some foreigners, the very start of these blogs offended me.
    What is wrong with a pipe band or Lambeg drums, how dare some one inferr that they would hate us to be classed as fellow Irish men, or Irish music.
    I do not fear a united ireland. I shall soon be sixty I left school right bang smack on 1969 I knew nothing of any kind of TROUBLE.
    As lady GAGA sung I was born this way. I was born into what the Catholics like to refer to as a statelet. I know no other, anything else would be strange or alien. So are you going to shoot me or tar and feather me, because I dare air my views.
    It’s the truth as I see it in my head, I ask no forgiveness or apologise to no one.
    I find the people in the south a lovely breed of people completely different to the hard liners up in the north

  13. paddykool April 25, 2014 at 3:55 pm #

    Jude et al :
    Norma has a very good point. I see no real difference in racism. It comes from everywhere…It’s like football hooliganism and it probably adheres to a group mindset. It’s not as if we are not all the same now, what with the internet, cellphones and Sky television. Different colours and cultures are everywhere. They are the “norm”.

    So what drives someone to simply hate someone they don’t actually know?

    When we were little children in school, many years before Mr. Geldof tried to Feed the World, we were encouraged to collect silver milk bottle tops to somehow feed the black babies. We never questioned this benign idea in any way. These ssame “black babies” may just as well have been green martians…..we didn’t care ;they needed our help and somehow those little silver bottletops would somehow provide it.That was our foundation in race relations as school children. Did these people who terrorise their immigrant neighbours not have this same moral grounding?

    Even the easy “racism” of comedy soap operas in the 1960’s and 1970’s was seen by most right -thinking people as errant .Alf Garnet was such a stereotypical racist that he was made to look a buffoon…and rightly so.

    There’s part of me that thinks that in Northern Ireland, some of the easy racism and attacks is in some part also part of a sectarian culture shock. A lot of people living here are living very insular lives and do not mix with other religions, never mind other races….remember those “Peace Walls”…
    Then there are the obscene football chants and “blood and thunder” bands. There really is a need for education here.

  14. Ceannaire April 25, 2014 at 4:09 pm #

    Norma, Norma, Norma. I think you’ll find that Jude did not write “all Protestants attacked some foreigners.” That is in your head.

    Strange that you never heard of any kind of trouble until 1969. Those bombings and shootings by Unionist terrorists for the previous three years must have completely passed you by.

    No one is going to shoot or tar and feather you. That’s just silly and over the top (like most of what you have stated in this thread).

    So you have no need to apologise for any of the assumptions, lies and distortions you have made here today? You’re some Christian, I must say.

    And to suggest that we are some sort of hard liners is laughable considering your rantings here.

    We are not “Your lot”. We are fellow citizens. At least give us the decency of treating us as such.

    I’m glad that you are not afraid of a United Ireland. There would be nothing to fear, I can assure you of that.

    Know this, Norma. The days you seem to hanker for are over. They are never coming back. EVER. Get used to it. No one is chipping away at Protestants.

    And it’s this line where you blamed all Catholics – “No catholic has the right to point the finger at any one. You commited the most heinous of crimes.” Your words. Think about them. And then you tell us that you have no apologies to make.

    I think if you should spend less time reading Protestant Coalition lies.

    • Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 8:12 pm #

      Believe me or believe me not, I knew nothing of the troubles, prior to 1969. The first fear ever instilled in me, was from an aunt who has long passed away, that the IRA was coming over the Boyne bridge to kill us all.
      I left my close knit community and went with my parents to live in Suffolk.
      That was an experience in its self, I have made many catholic friends from then on and as I said before I am in a very happy mixed marriage.
      I don’t as you so very kindly put it hanker for ‘the good old days’ I did not know any of these days you speak of.
      Fifteen then are not the same as fifteen year olds now.
      But I am from the same country as you, with my own beliefs and identity, and I hold them dear. I do fear they will be dismantled, I read the papers, and watch the news.
      It always appears to me, that the only bad people was on my side of the fence and the Catholics were goody two shoes who were innocent of everything!

  15. angela April 25, 2014 at 5:04 pm #

    Hi Norma I read the post you made at 10.41 In it you said “spikes and turks” What’s a spike please.

  16. paddykool April 25, 2014 at 6:02 pm #

    Norma: Sometimes i feel your heart is in the right place but you do not fully explain yourself . You leave many thoughts unexplored …for example…”My catholic brother and sister in law work with Polish foreigners, they tell me all sorts especially when it comes to over time. The mix is 90 percent to ten in their favour.
    On yes and my very catholic mother in law who I might add is very pious well I could not write or repeat what she would do, but I suppose she is from the old school, ”

    I’m afraid you need to explain what exactly that means….As someone else asks…What are “spikes”?.. I take it that term is “spicks”….am I right?..as in a derogatory reference to Spaniards…. I think you lose some of us in translation that’s all …Many of the things you refer to are your honest observations from your point of view. I ‘m not sure how informed that point of view is .As you say yourself , you were not taught any Irish history. A lot of our neighbours have a very “pick and mix ” view of morality …and that’s on both sides ….God and religion is like a lucky dip in Northern Ireland ..As you say ..piety in one hand and bitterness in the other…At least that’s what I think you mean….I may be wrong ….

  17. Pointis April 25, 2014 at 7:51 pm #


    I do not believe you are a 56 year old Protestant lady who is married to a devout Catholic man!

    There are a number of reasons for my beliefs:-

    1.I don’t think there are many men, Protestant or Catholic who would not be embarrassed by your views and
    2. I have never encountered a Christian woman in her 50’s who would use terminology, let alone the abbreviation such as ‘FFS’ which you used in a previous thread on this site.

    Since there has been a common theme of truth and not telling lies in recent threads I would like you to answer this question honestly. Are you in reality Willie Frazer?

    • Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 8:18 pm #

      No wrong I am sixty quite soon, not related to WF my husband is a catholic who loves me very much

      • Pointis April 25, 2014 at 9:32 pm #

        OK then Norma,

        You have told everyone a little bit about your background. Why did you decide to blog on this particular website?

        Why did you use the term ‘FFS’ and where did you come across it?

        • Norma wilson April 26, 2014 at 8:46 pm #

          FFS. Don’t you want me to keep up with the jargon. It is better than saying it. Better than taking the Lords name in vain.
          I was 21 when I lived in Germany, what did I know about Specks spikes. All I can say is the Germans did not like these people living in their area. That was the name they called them. I know this because I befriended a German Briigitta Kaisler.
          Frau Brigid. And that I hope answers your question.

          • Pointis April 27, 2014 at 1:35 am #

            Don’t think you do yourself any favours using terminology like that Norma! I don’t think it is any better than saying ‘for Gods sake’ in fact I think it is a form of disrespecting God. Others may disagree.

            You probably know already that people here think your ‘spikes’ remark refers to ‘spics / spicks’ which is a derogatory term used in USA to refer to people of Hispanic or Latino origin and they are quite shocked by its use on here.

            Although this site is broadly Nationalist in outlook there are contributors from all parts of the religious and political spectrum and they generally treat each other respectfully even if they vehemently disagree with one another. Sometimes it is hard to acknowledge our own mistakes but I can attest to you that on here it is regarded as a sign of strength not weakness and people do not rub others nose in the dirt if they have admitted saying something they later regret saying.

            I hope you take this in the spirit of friendship in which it is intended!

  18. ANOTHER JUDE April 25, 2014 at 7:56 pm #

    Unionism/Loyalism is based on a notion of superiority, `we are the people. The Protestant working class were taught (and probably still are being fed this guff) to distrust and keep Catholics down. William Scholes writing in today`s Irish News (you know, the paper with no fada in Sinn Féin…) makes a good point about not all Protestants being anti Catholic yet fails to notice the Orange Order`s reason for existence which is to demonise and ostracise Papists. Our British neighbours might try to tut and call us all sectarian eejits but we are not the ones with an established Church and we do not burn effigies on November the Fifth. I think the death knell for the continuation of British rule here will start to sound the day England (for it is she) becomes a secular country.

    Norma, I hope your headache has lifted. As a Catholic I do not give a fig for your religious beliefs, maybe one day you and your fellow Unionists will stop obsessing with mine.

    • Norma wilson April 25, 2014 at 8:16 pm #

      I was never ever taught or fed anything of the sort.

      • ANOTHER JUDE April 26, 2014 at 12:13 am #

        But the Order promotes anti Catholic propaganda. It is an anti Catholic organisation. The Catholic Church never mentions the other Churches. We don`t really care about their ways.

        • Norma wilson April 26, 2014 at 8:59 pm #

          Once again, I do not know anything about the OO. Only the other day,(the irony of it) I asked my RC Husband, ‘what is the Black Percipitory’ I do not even know if this is spelt right.
          3+3= 8
          2+2= a fish
          7+7= a triangle.
          When you work it out you can go right to the top of the class

          • Pointis April 27, 2014 at 1:15 pm #

            Hi Norma, what is the story with the strange maths?

  19. ANOTHER JUDE April 25, 2014 at 7:57 pm #

    Have we found out what exactly a `spike` is???

    • angela April 25, 2014 at 9:06 pm #

      Not yet AJ but I’m sure “Norma” will educate us soon.

  20. michael c April 25, 2014 at 8:39 pm #

    I think Norma is working undercover for the VO in a sly attempt to render this site unworkable.

    • Pointis April 25, 2014 at 9:18 pm #

      Or perhaps the PC? On second thoughts doesn’t come across as particularly PC!

  21. Pointis April 25, 2014 at 9:43 pm #

    Jude the time stamp on my blogs are an hour out!

  22. paddykool April 25, 2014 at 9:46 pm #

    I think I figured out “spikes” back there around 6.02 folks !!

    • Anthony April 25, 2014 at 10:48 pm #

      I reckon your spot on there paddykool, Norma’s reference about living in Germany “with Spikes and Turks” is clearly meant to say spicks, a derogatory term for the Spanish and a glimpse into as AJ said the notion of superiority and deep racist mentality that Unionist/loyalist ideology is based on.

  23. ANOTHER JUDE April 26, 2014 at 12:10 am #

    paddykool, I think you are probably spot on there, but who knows, maybe Norma meant something else…..something `nice` possibly??

    Anthony, I really do hate to be proven right. *

    * I love it really…….

  24. Pointis April 26, 2014 at 12:18 pm #

    Does anyone here think that Professor Jude would be up to performing a Pygmalion type transformation on the boul Norma Doolittle?


    Professor Henry Higgins (expert in phonetics and dialect) – Professor Jude Collins

    Eliza Doolittle (She is an uneducated, uncouth “guttersnipe,” the flower girl whom Higgins (for a dare) decides to mold into a duchess. She is probably twenty years younger than Higgins)- Norma Wilson

    Alfred Doolittle (Eliza’s father; he is a dustman with a sonorous voice and a Welsh accent, who proudly believes in his position as a member of the “undeserving poor.” )- Paddykool

    Colonel Pickering (A distinguished retired officer and the author of Spoken Sanskrit. He has come to England to meet the famous Professor Henry Higgins. He is courteous and polite to Eliza, and he shares in Higgins’ experiments in phonetics in teaching Eliza to speak as a duchess). – Another Jude

    Mrs. Higgins (Henry Higgins’ mother, who thoroughly loves her son but also thoroughly disapproves of his manners, his language, and his social behavior). – Giordanobruno

    Mrs. Eynsford-Hill (A lady of the upper-middle class who is in a rather impoverished condition but is still clinging to her gentility). Am Ghobsmacht

    Clara Eynsford-Hill (Her daughter; she tries to act the role of the modem, advanced young person). Angela

    Freddy Eynsford-Hill (Her son; he is a pleasant young man who is enchanted by Eliza upon first meeting her). – Michael C

    Mrs. Pearce (Professor Higgins’ housekeeper of long standing. She is the one who first sees the difficulty of what is to happen to Eliza after Higgins and Pickering have finished their experiment with her).- argenta

    • Jude Collins April 26, 2014 at 2:49 pm #

      Ha hahaaaaaaa! Very good, Pointis. I’ll have you know I was a bystander in that play once…

    • Norma wilson April 26, 2014 at 8:34 pm #

      Very good, and a very good choice George Bernard Shaw, a good Irishman from Dublin.
      From Protestant stock along with the like of Oscar Wilde another one that comes to mind.
      Now should I get to cast you, I think you would be suited to Dickens Oliver, and the part I would bestow on you would be Fegan.
      Just to lighten the atmosphere a little, I hope you also have a humorous side, we were eating at a hotel in West Belfast, young children were running round the place.
      The Mother shouts our ‘portia ‘ come here we are going, come now. I said oh, is she called after Portia in the Merchant of Venice?
      Naw she said Porche the car.
      To all my fellow friends if what ever colour or creed, if I offended you in any way I am truly sorry.
      And on reflection I did not say how much I hate my side, for the things they have done and committed.
      So as Yasser Hughes once said gees a job, I loved that play and acted the part at school.
      So let me know when the auditions are coming up. On second thoughts I may be to old now.

      • Pointis April 27, 2014 at 12:49 am #

        Hi Norma,

        As the saying goes “you are only as old as the woman you feel” I get the impression that there is plenty of life and vigour left in you!

        I do hope you decide to stick around here as they are all good spuds really.

        As for me, I am off to pick a pocket or two!

    • Norma wilson April 26, 2014 at 9:17 pm #

      Ooopppps, nearly forgot my choice for Jude would be Evita, with him playing the part of Eva Peron.

    • giordanobruno April 27, 2014 at 12:35 pm #

      Me as Jude’s Mother? What a thought!
      Mind you he does often claim that I bore him so perhaps it is true.

      • Pointis April 27, 2014 at 6:45 pm #


        Disapproving of his behaviour but deep down she still loves him!

  25. paddykool April 26, 2014 at 2:59 pm #


    : …Aaahhh! ….Very good ….I get best supporting role!!…Stanley Holloway was always a favourite. I think he got all the best lines although his comic timing would be hard to match….never mind that Welsh accent ….I’d need to take lessons from the in-laws…… “Get me to the church on time”,….. indeed!!!!

    • Norma wilson April 26, 2014 at 8:37 pm #

      Into the wee hours of last night I read most of your bloggs. You are the one I respected the most. You spoke out in words which I feel if you were up for elections I could give you my vote.

    • Pointis April 27, 2014 at 12:41 am #

      I am sure you would have given Stanley a run for his money!

  26. michael c April 26, 2014 at 4:28 pm #

    Never saw the play,do I finish up coortin Norma?

    • Pointis April 27, 2014 at 12:36 am #

      Yes Michael you end up getting hitched to Norma.

  27. ANOTHER JUDE April 26, 2014 at 11:17 pm #

    Great posts, I am happy to appear in the musical version, some great tunes there….

    I`ve Grown Accustomed To Her (casual) Racism
    I Could Have Rioted All Night
    Get Me To The Church (Saint Patricks) On Time
    Why Can`t The English Learn….. to stop invading other people`s countries
    Wouldn`t It Be Loverly……if the DUP weren`t scared of progress
    The Rain In Spain….falls mainly on the Spikes
    On The Street Where You Live…..a musical tribute to the Garvaghy Road

    • Pointis April 27, 2014 at 12:39 am #

      Very funny AJ especially the rain in Spain reference!

  28. Jude Collins April 27, 2014 at 11:49 am #

    This is getting surreal. Can you guys not go back to good old-fashioned verbal abuse?