Are we there yet, Peter?


Dear God. Where to start, when your First Minister leaves you breathless? OK. Close eyes, say “Oooommmm”….That’s a bit better. Not much but a bit. Right then, let’s look at it in small bits.

1. Peter Robinson, unlike Martin McGuinness, waited until the elections were over before opening his mouth. Why was that? Delayed reaction? Overcome with emotion? Or a canny desire not to alienate any morons who might agree with the good Pastor?

2.  Peter wouldn’t trust any Muslims who are causing explosions and killing people. Well doh. Hands up all who would trust a Muslim who’s about to blow you up? Or a Christian? Or a Jew?

3.Every pastor, as Peter sees it, has a duty to denounce other religions. Whaaaaat? In that case all those Christian Brothers and priests who taught me, and priests who have worked in parishes in which I’ve lived my life, have failed in their duty, because they didn’t denounce all other religions. Not one. They believed in their own faith and urged us  to do likewise, but no denunciation of other faiths. What kind of notion of Christianity is that?

4. Peter would trust a Muslim to go to the shops for him. In the  name of all that’s half-sane and half-sensible: could you be any more condescending, Peter? Maybe trust them to hew a bit of wood or carry a bucket of water for you? Not content with a ghastly effort to justify not trusting Muslims, the First Minister now consigns them to some sort of underclass. Here’s the thing, Peter: would they trust you to go to the shops for them?

5. I heard George Galloway on the radio this morning and he echoed what I said on the Nolan radio show earlier this week: once upon a time not so long ago, it was ‘Never trust a Catholic’ and fenians are the spawn-of-Satan. Now it’s shifted to the Muslims. Should Catholics be glad?  Speaking as one of them, I feel near despair. Galloway also said that if that if such a statement was issued by a leader of a political party across the water, they’d be out on their ear inside five minutes. Not here, though. (Galloway, by the way, is due on the Nolan Show on TV tonight. I’d say it’d be worth watching).

6. Finally, Peter – there are some lengths to which one should not go in order to corner a few more votes in East Belfast from the racist graffiti sprayers. You’ve not only disgraced yourself – by  being our First Minister you’ve disgraced us, in that we allow this kind of talk to come out of your mouth. Shame on you.



53 Responses to Are we there yet, Peter?

  1. paul May 28, 2014 at 4:48 pm #

    Dead on Jude. Despite the racist rant, Muslims still seem to have a higher place on the totem pole than Catholics. The esteemed FM feels they are at least worthy to do menial tasks, while many in Unionism still have the “I wouldn’t have a Catholic about the place”

    I am being repetitive but one can only wonder the level of outrage and self righteous indignation from politicians from all over Ireland had a SF or other Nationalist said this. People need to open there eyes whenever the FM or his party faithful talk about democracy. the phrase ‘physician heal thyself” comes to mind.

  2. Pointis May 28, 2014 at 7:20 pm #

    Couldn’t agree more Paul, this is a story that judging by the UTV 6 O’clock news that the station would like to bury quickly. Only the leader of the Belfast Islamic Centre interviewed and the ever so coy SOS who didn’t seem to want to be drawn on the issue. No views were sought from other party representatives or ordinary members of the public on the views on the First minister of the state! The programme chose to focus on the spat between the DFM and FM and not on the huge implications of the FM defending the racist remarks of an evangelical preacher. Then quickly on to the next item. 3 out of 10!

    To be fairer to the BBC they gave a little more time on the item but no views sought from mainstream UK parties on the First Ministers defence of Pastor McConnells anti-Muslim Internet speech. 4 out of 10.

    I get the feeling the NI TV media want to keep this local or if possible off the tv altogether.

  3. Francis D May 28, 2014 at 7:28 pm #

    Shame on him, though that will mean nothing to him. His timing was apposite, hischoice of codescending terminology discerning ( in the old Stormont it would have been Catholic running to the shops for him), and his gall in broadcasting such tripe…puts him on a par with Nick Griffin any sabbath of the season. It would be becoming for Mcguinness to immediately distance himself from Robinson on this from the political rooftops. Substitute Taig for Muslim, and it is a thin veil indeed that separates us from these supremiscists indeed.

    • paul May 28, 2014 at 8:26 pm #

      Correct, you put in plain words taig = muslim, although as I stated, I feel taigs are a few rungs down the ladder in the FM and SOS estimation.

  4. Antonio May 28, 2014 at 8:23 pm #

    The fact that he unashamedly said ‘I would trust a Muslim to go down the shop for me’ are a testament to an arrogance & ignorance beyond my comprehension. Just who in the hell does he think he is talking about people in such a way.
    A spokesman from the Islamic society of Britain on the Nolan Show this morning hit the nail on the head when he said ‘these comments are akin to the English defence league’.
    Robinson is actually worse than I thought he was.
    He is a disgrace.

    I am going on holiday to London this weekend – just the thought that any muslims (or anybody at all) in that city would hear my accent and associate me with my ‘northern Irish’ first minster is a horrible thought.

  5. paul May 28, 2014 at 8:24 pm #

    The SOS is hand in arm with the DUP. I am sure she is too busy praising the RUC and denying Ballmurphy justice to comment . Another ‘democrat’ LOL

  6. RJC May 28, 2014 at 8:50 pm #

    Why is this man still ‘First Minister of Northern Ireland’?

    How does he think his behaviour reflects upon ‘Northern Ireland’ as a whole?

    At this rate, the Republicans won’t have to do anything. The DUP will have made this part of Ireland the laughing stock of the world and eventually the global community will insist that these clowns step aside, and hand it back to the Irish to run themselves.

    They’ve had nearly a hundred years to make a go of this place. Time perhaps, to admit that this is beyond their capabilites.

    ‘Northern Ireland born 1921; died 2021(ish)’

    • Antonio May 28, 2014 at 9:03 pm #

      Fair point

      We should just sit back, relax and enjoy watching the Unionists making a complete hash of the Union

  7. Norma wilson May 28, 2014 at 9:08 pm #

    I am also astounded by PR choice of words, some things are best kept quiet.
    It is not that long ago, I too, had to whisper and keep my accent toned down. IRA bombs going off all over the place. Londoners telling me to get back over to Belfast, we don’t want your type here?
    Today on the news, a woman was stoned to death! I don’t know if it was anything to do with Islam.
    I think there is a lot of hypocrites out there
    and people are too PC? I am all for live and let live, but I too have my reservations on Islam. If speaking out is a bad thing, then it is a sad world we live in!
    The Pope actually financed the war on Saladin, to crush Islam, if my memory serves me right.
    When you arrive in London open your eyes, and don’t fool your self, is that what you really want here. I really am trying not to be prejudice, but I cannot forget those men who groomed those young white girls, or that guy Lee who was macheted to death, in Woolich.
    Sorry, these are my own personal thoughts, I look forward to hearing what PK has to say on the matter.

  8. Am Ghobsmacht May 28, 2014 at 9:26 pm #

    This is incredible.

    I sometimes think that a united Ireland would be good for the likes of Robinson (ironically).

    In a UI the unionist position would be redundant, the link that joins teenage tracksuit wearing ‘fleggers’ to rural Christian types to Oxbridge educated politicians would be severed, that means that the likes of PR wouldn’t have to appeal to the ever more disparate strands within unionism.

    He and his type would be free to form a right leaning Christian Democratic party where they can indulge in this kind of stuff.

    As mentioned before, unionist leaders are doing a grand job of uniting Ireland, I sometimes welcome the thought of it just to stop these nail bitingly embarrassing episodes.

    Since Fleggergeddon started we’ve just seen embarrassing ‘spokesperson’ after embarrassing spokesperson wheel out incredibly narrow minded gibberish.

    Is this all a bad dream?

    BTW, does anything know much about this McConnell chap? Is he properly trained in Divinities?
    Does he have mastery theology?

    I think we should have Gerry Springer as First Minister, at least he knows how to deal with such people….

  9. Am Ghobsmacht May 28, 2014 at 9:27 pm #

    ‘mastery OF theology’…

  10. giordanobruno May 28, 2014 at 9:34 pm #

    Reluctant as I am to agree with Jude, on this occasion I have no choice.
    Absolutely disgraceful remarks from Robinson.
    Ugly and small minded and I feel ashamed that such a man is our First Minister.

  11. Jude Collins May 28, 2014 at 9:58 pm #

    This is NOT me – it’s Sherdy. He’s having problems getting comment on.

    Re Peter


    Just when you think the depths of the depths have been plumbed, along comes our First Minister, Peter Robinson to surprise, no, shock us to think that the man appointed to represent us both at home and on the world stage, should get himself a drill as big as the oil rig being refurbished at the shipyard, to drill to such depths as to be beyond belief.

    It was disgraceful to hear a so-called pastor come off with such racist language as ‘spawned of the devil’, then we’re told how many supporters attended his church in the aftermath, and despite the other DUP supporters backing the preacher, we think maybe the FM’s silence indicates he may be learning some sense or Christian charity.

    But as you say, Jude, he waits until post election before issuing even worse bile than those before him, by being so insulting to a whole race of people.

    Obviously democracy and political responsibility mean nothing to the DUP. Does anyone know of a school for democracy, which also teaches Christian charity, to which DUP members could volunteer to enrol? They certainly won’t learn about either from James McConnell.

  12. Jude Collins May 28, 2014 at 10:03 pm #

    This from Harry:


    So Peter robinson has come out in his interview with the Irish News in defence of the indefensible. Here he is balancing semantics on a pin head as he defends the Pastor about his comments on muslims. If it wasn’t enough to side with a man who has just said that a whole belief system has been spawned in the bowels of Hell { wherever that may be!}, he’s just said the Muslims are okay in their place but he wouldn’t trust them except maybe to go to the shop for him …and even then he might count his change twice.
    The very humanity- loving pastor has already set the dogs barking about “terrorist cells of these heathens” , hiding all around us like fifth columnists or those pesky republican terrorists of yore. There’s never a mention of any other kind of “terrorists”. Is it that these fundamentalist folk need something to kick because the republicans are easing off.? They need another whipping boy to stir up the rubes in the audience, it seems.
    Peter Robinson, our sainted, sanctimonious First Minister has just basically said something that in anywhere else except in this Neverland of Northern Ireland , would have him drummed out of office.When Sinn Fein’s John O’Dowd brought up the subject on the Nolan Show and alluded to Peter Robinson’s support of “certain kinds of violence”, when it suited his agenda ,he was quickly stymied by Nolan and basically told to shut the hell up. I imagine O’Dowd could have mentioned a whole catalogue of Mr. Robinson’s dubious contacts with violence in the past ;it’s well- enough documented but appears to have escaped Nolan’s notice; the most recent would probably be connected to the “flag and leaflets” debacle that ended with the trouble at Alliance ‘s offices and the violence concerning the police car. That did n’t simply pop out of the air .It had its origins in the DUP backroom. Nolan would not allow O’Dowd to list the many ways…..going back to his association with Ian Paisley’s violence -stirring speeches and rallys ,Ulster Resistance, the Clontibret debacle.Who knows what else there is, but we already have a fair idea of his views on the gay community because he gave his all- out support to his wife’s flamboyant statemnts.Do these people now have a bee in their bonnet about muslims? they ‘ll know pretty soon who all thes eimmigrant peoples are going to vote for…and it’ll not be the DUP.
    Come to think of it , “What is Nolan on ?” Maybe someone out there can fill in the blanks.

  13. Francis D May 28, 2014 at 10:16 pm #

    Norma, there is an argument to be made against the excesses of Sharia Law, a form of which is practised by a small minority of Muslims who use the unjust Wars they are bombed limb from limb in to advertise their particular brand of counter terror. They distort the peaceful message Islam and it’s followers enmasse renounce violence, apart from Jihadists who endorse the insurgencies against the US and HRH’s Armed forces with theie guns raining lead, and their Bombs blowing their kin to the aftetlife in peices hard to find for their coffins. Norma, you say certain things should be left unsaid…..Such mind frames, articulated or kept quietly discreet, are mere intolerance, fear and hate which can only further cause dischord. Cause and effect……Fear and Hate promoted from the Pulpit or War wreaked bloodily for prophit, can and will only create HURT and its retinue of loathsome casualties as the inevitable after effect. This right-wing Pastor should immediatly be arrested for promoting Hate Crime…ESP at a time when othet minorities are being tortured here by the now far right UVF in East Belfast, and bigots elswhere. Shame on Robinson who should resign, or us make him with a vote of no confidence. No offence Norma, admission of bordering on being prejudiced is no excuse to defend the indefencible… is a duty of all rational people to learn the facts and always, always contest the mustard seed sowers of Discord and Hate, wherever it raises its loathsome head.

  14. Paul May 28, 2014 at 10:59 pm #

    Robinson is a disgrace and always has been , for those of a certain vintage will remember him in a red berry leading some quasi Protestant force up and down hills threatening the Catholic population , he’s not fit to lead a football team never mind the statelet that is , the Northern part of Ireland

  15. Leo flanagan May 28, 2014 at 11:03 pm #

    I think 1400 years of aggression inspired by the Quran should make us all wary, whether Hindu, Buddhist, Jew or Christian even atheist.
    And all of those on the interface with Islam seem to be prepared to take up arms to defend thhemselves for all those centuries.
    But in the far west we can be detached and very PC.
    In 2006 Benedict quoted a dialogue between a Byzantine prince Manuel 11 and a Persian scholar in 1391 criticising the use of the sword and not reason to evangelise.
    For which he was cruelly excoriated.
    All hell was let loose in the Muslim world. Effigies of the pope were burnt by those who had no idea who Benedict was.
    Innocents were murdered in reprisal.
    Nothing had changed in 600 years, nothing had changed in 1400 years.
    Whatever we do, ignore the elephant in the room.

  16. RJC May 28, 2014 at 11:28 pm #

    ‘Give ’em enough rope’ as they say.

    I welcome Am Ghobsmacht’s incredulousness here. This ‘Pastor’ McConnell character is surely guilty of exactly the same behaviour as Big Ian himself. It’s just that in our new exciting letsgetalongerist Norn Iron, this kind of hate speech would not be accepted were it against Catholics. Muslims are still fair game it would seem. At least in the eyes of the DUP.

    I hope to God this story goes global. George Galloway can perhaps be prone to hyperbole, but in this instance he may prove prophetic. Just like Enoch Powell himself, eh Pastor?

  17. Norma wilson May 28, 2014 at 11:32 pm #

    I lived in Pietermaritzburg, Natal. I celebrated Ramadan with them, shared their hospitality.
    It is only after 9/11 that I became frightened of this religion,

  18. RJC May 28, 2014 at 11:38 pm #

    My money’s on Dirty Dodds replacing Peter Punt as DUP Leader.

    I wonder what odds Paddy Power are giving?

    • ANOTHER JUDE May 28, 2014 at 11:44 pm #

      Dear God…..The Mighty Dodds, he of the glancing brick…..

  19. ANOTHER JUDE May 28, 2014 at 11:42 pm #

    It took a foreigner, George Galloway on the Nolan Show (The Biggest Show In The Artificially Contrived Sectarian Statelet), to point out the big orange elephant in the room when he quite correctly mentioned that these nutty preachers are just as hateful towards the Catholics. Of course, they always say they do not hate the actual person, just their satanic master in Rome so that`s ok then. Robinson is a horrible little man with a long history of hateful statements, remember his line about how there were a lot of blacks in the Ireland World Cup team in 1994, were they REALLY Irish? Or his insensitive quip about Mo Mowlam not having her full faculties when she had the audacity to go against DUP wisdom? He of course is quite right not to want Sharia Law here, if it was in place poor Iris would be lying under a pile of rocks. Then again…..

  20. Pointis May 29, 2014 at 12:06 am #

    It will come as no surprise to many that the Pastor has admitted that the PSNI have not even contacted him yet. The investigation is obviously being carried out with the highest integrity and being coordinated at the nearest primary school!

    Why is it The people we are supposed to trust most are the ones that keep letting us down?

  21. paul May 29, 2014 at 1:37 am #

    Perhaps they are not worthy of our trust, I for one am not convinced that the PSNI is totally impartial. Hiring 1000 former RUC was an end around equality

    The FM is an embarassment , democrat he is not

  22. pointis May 29, 2014 at 7:34 am #

    The rest of the world have no idea what people have to endure. They are every bit as bad as the Islamist fundementalists they complain about.

    • giordanobruno May 29, 2014 at 8:09 pm #

      I don’t think anything we have to endure under the DUP is on the same level as what we might suffer under the taliban say.
      Keep it in perspective.

  23. paddykool May 29, 2014 at 8:05 am #

    Just to reiterate. I’m not remotely surprised by any of this .It’s the same old cant from the right wing of unionism that has always held sway in Northern Ireland. It’s how Paisley got his power i the first place. demonise someone or some group.Wind the hill billy, billy-boys up and watch the fur fly as you stand back wringing your hands , saying “It’s nothing to do with me , guv!”

    We’ve seen this game played out so many times and this is only the latest blatant chapter. All people within these various races and creeds are individuals. They are not all uniquely “terrorist”, “thieves”, or “white slavers”. There are villains everywhere and they are not uniquely from the muslim , Polish, Russian or Spanish races . we seem to have an inordinate lot of villains right here already who are supposed to be Christian but don’t know what it means.
    This story should go global and people outside of this little stinkpot should be made aware of the lunatics we have to deal with, such as Mr Robinson , his pastor friend and his mad right -wing rantings.
    The horrible truth is that no one out there cares about us. It is poor PR for Northern Ireland in that it will not encourage other races to come here , even for holidays , never mind for work.. Robinson obviously doesn’t care because he really doesn’t want any more of these foreigners about the place . He’s lost the gays …he’s lost the muslims …he’s lost the catholics….he’ll probably lose anyone of colour.. He knows where his voting base is and it’s with those white protestant right- wingers .That’s all he ‘ll ever have so he’s not interested in anything else..
    The bottom line is that everyone who comes to live here should abide by the laws we have developed ….A lot of the people here have never done that in my memory…and that includes Peter Robinson.

  24. michael May 29, 2014 at 8:25 am #

    peter robinson has been a staunch supporter of the orange order all his political life and most likely before that so we conclude he supports their veiw on all things catholic and i know he is not a member of the order but as i say he supports and defends them 100% so his defence of the rabid pastor is no surprise he is a disgrace to act as first minister of this nonsense place

  25. RJC May 29, 2014 at 9:06 am #

    I see that the ÜberLoyalist who was ranting and raving in the audience last night is in fact a Mr Colin Houston who stood on a UUP ticket in Belfast Oldpark in last week’s council elections. It is perhaps slightly disingenuous of the producers/editors of The Nolan Show not to ‘flag’ this up, by way of a caption. Not captioning him appropriately creates an impression in the viewer that this is somehow the view of the ‘man in the street’. Given that Mr Houston only received 366 first preference votes last week, I think was can safely say that this is not the case.

    On a similar-ish point, I would be interested to see what the demographic make up of The Nolan Show audience is. There were many excellent points made by both Mr Anis and Mr Galloway, which I thought would have elicited a round of applause from any right thinking audience. I felt that applause was conspicuous by its absence in certain parts of the show last night. Are Loyalists the only people with enough time on their hands to bother applying for tickets and sitting in the audience? Or are the other members of the audience intimidated by the presence of characters such as Colin Houston? I certainly wouldn’t like to meet him down a dark alley…

  26. RJC May 29, 2014 at 9:12 am #

    PS – I did enjoy it when our friend the ‘Pastor’ told Mr Anis to “Go back to Britain!” The levels of utter confusion which lie at the heart of Ulster Unionism are out in the open for all to see.

    • paddykool May 29, 2014 at 9:20 am #

      Yeah, RJC …that one made me laugh too. Absurd or what?!!!!

  27. RJC May 29, 2014 at 9:58 am #

    BREAKING NEWS – Peter Robinson starts furiously backpedaling as he wakes to discover that news of the McConnell/Robinson hate speech has been travelling around the world in news reports and across social media.


    • paul May 29, 2014 at 11:12 am #

      Didn’t mean to insult Muslims… Just what did you mean Mr FM?

  28. paddykool May 29, 2014 at 10:35 am #

    RJC : Robinson still doesn’t understand that with Freedom of Speech comes great responsibility… even Spiderman knows that “with great power comes great responsibility”

    We can all have logical views on religion and argue our various interpretations in the light of that logic, but to demonise people as a basis for your argument will not stand up to scrutiny, especially if the hellspawned “demons” are fictional creatures in the first place.

    Robinson has no notion how to behave as First Minister to all the citizens. He is totally out of line in so many ways and the criticism of his “leadership” rings true. He is not remotely statesmanlike in his job .He has no idea of the responsibility involved in doing that job properly for everyone’s benefit {and not just his own party} and has always fallen below any standard. required.

    • paul May 29, 2014 at 11:15 am #

      Mr Galloway has stated whta many have known for a long time. Anywhere else and he’d be running for the door, tail between his legs. An absolute farce that he gets away with this behavior as the supposed “voice of democracy”. Dopn’t go away mad Peter, just go away

  29. Jim Lynch May 29, 2014 at 11:37 am #

    Peter Robinson is a hypocrite and an arrogant clown. His misplaced sense of entitlement would not be tolerated anywhere else in this world.

    As Gandhi said; (I’m paraphrasing here)

    “I like your Christ, I don’t like your Christians, as they are not very Christ like.”

    And by the way the so-called Pastor is a pompous hypocrite also!

  30. wolfe tone May 29, 2014 at 11:38 am #

    Now and again the mask slips and ‘moderate’ unionism shows its true culture. What irks me in all this is our schools teach our kids that pete the punt etc are the good guys. And that is in the catholic run schools. The dumbing and taming down of our kids in school allow these bigots to flourish and prosper. Shamefully our schools airbrush the bad points of unionism etc in a pathetic effort to keep the status quo or indeed the peace. I wont hold my breath for the moment when a teacher tells the class that peter robinson is your first minister but he also is a bigot unfortunately. Alas the truth cant get in the way of painting a rosy picture for our kids although they will probably be effected by it in the future. Even more embarassingly a sinn fein minister has been over seeing the education portfolio for years. Is the minister trying too hard not to upset the bigots that hes allowing their bigotry to be ignored?

  31. Pointis May 29, 2014 at 12:02 pm #

    It would appear that Mr Robbinson has made an attempt at backtracking out of the quagmire that he has put the political process here.

    I think people should judge Mr Robbinson on how he makes any apology because not only does he need to apologise to the Muslim community both here and in Britain for his imbecilic remarks and for defending Pastor McConnell’s hateful remarks and his right to pedal them but he also needs to apologise to everyone living here for bringing our political system into disrepute across the world.

    The other apology he should make is to his deputy first minister Martin McGuinness for his nasty, bitter remarks towards Mr McGuinness on Twitter. Mr McGuinness didn’t do anything wrong in asking in a measured way for leadership to be shown in addressing the Pastor’s statements.

    If he doesn’t apologise to Mr McGuinness then any other apology will be hollow and meaningless as it is for face-saving purposes only and not true remorse.

    I heard his statement and it is one of those I am not accepting that I have hurt anyone but “if I hurt anybody then I am sorry”. Mr Robbinson didn’t make a mistake, it was everyone else who made the mistake in misinterpreting him, so he is not going to apologise but I am sure the media will let him off with that!

  32. leo flanagan May 29, 2014 at 12:05 pm #

    If the pastor and the first minister have problems with the ‘One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church’, that worries me.

    But as a kafir, the teachings of the koran worry me too.

    And the violence dished out daily to kafirs globally but considered too PC for our elite and others to condemn worries me as well.

    Stalin had his ‘useful idiots’.

    Does Islam?

  33. max marley May 29, 2014 at 12:07 pm #

    If the pastor and the first minister have problems with the ‘One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church’, that worries me.

    But as a kafir, the teachings of the koran worry me too.

    And the violence dished out daily to kafirs globally but considered too PC for our elite and others to condemn worries me as well.

    Stalin had his ‘useful idiots’.

    Does Islam?

  34. RJC May 29, 2014 at 1:51 pm #

    News Just In –

    Colin Houston says he has been suspended by UUP and has resigned his membership.

    Now if only the TUV would take note, and suspend those members who turned their backs on Martina Anderson as she was making her Euro election speech the other day.

    Then perhaps the DUP could suspend Peter Robinson for incitement to racial hatred. Or maybe Ms Villiers should call on him to stand down from his post as ‘First Minister of Northern Ireland’.

    We can but dream, eh?

    • Pointis May 29, 2014 at 2:09 pm #

      He looked as if he were about to go into a catatonic state of selfinduced bigotry last night!

      • Theresa Watson May 29, 2014 at 5:46 pm #

        Robinson have no moral authority to condemn anyone. But that does not mean we should ignore the worst aspects of Islam, especially it’s barbaric treatment of women.

        There has been very little said about the women facing the death penalty in a Pakistani jail for marrying a Christian. Or the thousands of Christians murdered by Muslims just for been a Christian. Is this of lesser significance than the mad ranting’s of a Belfast pastor?

  35. michael c May 29, 2014 at 5:38 pm #

    There is no difference betweenthe DUP and UUP as far as bigotry is concerned.

  36. Theresa Watson May 29, 2014 at 6:00 pm #

    Robinson have no moral authority to condemn anyone. But that does not mean we should ignore the worst aspects of Islam, especially it’s barbaric treatment of women.

    There has been very little said about the women facing the death penalty in a Pakistani jail for marrying a Christian. Or the thousands of Christians murdered by Muslims just for been a Christian. Is this of lesser significance than the mad ranting’s of a Belfast pastor?

  37. ANOTHER JUDE May 29, 2014 at 6:47 pm #

    Why are these Bible thumpers so obsessed with other faiths, they spent decades ranting and raving about the Catholics and now the poor old Muslims are getting it in the neck. I would just like to warn my Protestant, ie Church Of Ireland friends, if these nutjobs weren`t spouting abuse at Catholics they would be attacking you.

  38. neill May 29, 2014 at 8:56 pm #

    The First Minister doesnt like Muslims or Catholics.

    The Deputy first Minister has been involved in an organisation that has killed people.

    What sort of example does this set for the people who live here?

    I dont like what the pastor or robinson have said indeed i despise it because i have worked in many muslim countries and they are brillant people who have shown be much kindness however we live in a liberal democracey were freedom of speech is a cornor stone of society and has to be protected.

    The real test of freedom of speech is when somebody comes out and says something you entirely disagree with like this case.

    • Pointis May 29, 2014 at 10:31 pm #

      Yes Neill, I would accept what you say but surely you have the right to expect better from the person leading the country!

      • neill May 30, 2014 at 6:52 am #

        Yes you would have expected a lot better from the leader of the country sadly he doesnt have the gravitas to do the job properly.

        The problem is we have no real political talent here and if the people at the top dont provide a good example.

        • pointis May 30, 2014 at 7:14 am #


    • ANOTHER JUDE May 30, 2014 at 7:12 pm #

      Robinson has been involved with loyalist paramilitaries, his party has been involved with gun running and he and his DUP colleagues have shared public platforms with UDA/UVF/LVF killers. He is a hypocrite of the highest order. Even if he had no history (and he does) his support for RUC/UDR/British army aggression against the Nationalists would render him an apologist for political violence. Wearing a fancy uniform and receiving a cheque from the `authorities` does not make it right.

  39. paddykool May 30, 2014 at 8:51 am #

    This issue has nothing to do with the actual customs of people of the muslim faith.I believe , as you all well know, that many religions have some major flaws of logic built into them because they are based on the only knowledge available to people living thousands of years ago..

    That said,, , Jesus Christ, a Jewish man who is the basis of a whole religion now, was crucified to death on a wooden cross.Nailed into his flesh for his strange upsetting and unsettling ideas…which was a fairly standard form of hanging back then , which everyone accepted as “normal” punishment. These were not very pleasant forms of justice but were the “norm” back then..

    These practices were eventually left behind…just as here in Ireland and the UK , hanging was stopped just a few years ago. People eventually have to change.
    The muslims are still hanging on to the same old practices but as they are joining into our secular societies, they will also gradually change their strange old practices .It is up to help them to see the error of the barbaric treatment of women and the worst practices of punishment.. They will still retain their religion and belief but the laws of the land will have to be followed wherever they are. ..Religion should really be a private obsession for all of us . It should not impinge in any way on the body politic.I do not want to see First Ministers, who supposedly represent everyone , pushing his strange beliefs down my throat. The fact that he has any connection to this mad racist pastor, frankly makes my flesh crawl.. The fact that anyone who supports those kinds of views support a party or parties who hold those kinds of stone age views or is associated with them in any way makes me despair for this place.{ Not really that long ago , either} Before that “decent” citizens went along to these displays of death to rubberneck and gape at the entertainments.People love a circus.

    I know that only about 50% vote here but that leaves a big percentage of the population at least, surrounding us with these vile racist ideas…and maybe many more. They appear to be voting mostly for unionist parties, the biggest of whom is the DUP….Racism probably cuts across the political divide but it does seem to be very apparent among right wing unionist voters , I don’t see too many of them demanding Peter Robinson’s resignation yet…which would happen in the very “british” UK.There would be an uproar that would carry him out of office. He would probably be replaced by an equally sincere racist and so it goes….

    .All that against the background of Anna Lo’s tears. The woman being abused in the streets just like those muslim women we were talking about..

    What a bloody place indeed!!

  40. RJC May 30, 2014 at 9:53 am #

    This sure as hell ain’t Britain, despite what some people here may think.