Roberta McNally, David Simpson, Catherine Seeley and two people

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First person: Have you heard? Roberta McNally has declared that Catherine Seeley, the Sinn Féin candidate for Upper Bann, is a tramp. She’s also spoken of the nationalist/republican population of that area as ‘taigs’.

Second person: And your point is? Roberta McNally isn’t even a DUP member.

First person:  True. But she did sign the nomination papers for the DUP’s David Simpson, who’s also running in Upper Bann. She’s been photographed canvassing with DUP politicians, and one photograph shows her with David Simpson’s arm around her.

Second person: Oh, that’s different. How embarrassing for the DUP candidate. I expect he’s come out like a greyhound from the traps and condemned this insult directed at his young Sinn Féin opponent and disassociated himself from all talk of ‘taigs’?

First person: Well actually, no.

Second person: Nothing? Not even a peep?

First person:  Nope.

Second person: But the DUP party itself, following  its leader’s call for the development of more Catholics within the DUP ranks, has surely come down on it like a lorryload of Lurgan spades?

First person:  ‘Fraid not. Deathly silence.

Second person: Mmm. Maybe it was a slip of the tongue.  Two slips.

First person: Perhaps. But if that was the case she’d probably have apologised for it.

Second person: You mean she hasn’t?

First person: Not a syllable. The Belfast Telegraph says she “remains defiant”.

Second person:  Very odd. How do you explain it?

First person:  Well, either Ms McNally considers Ms Seeley a young woman of low moral standards –

Second person: I thought you said she called her a tramp.

First person: She did, but it’s assumed she was using it in the sense of a prostitute or slut, rather than a  homeless person who walks the country begging.

Second person: Oh. That’s serious. And a bit disgusting.

First person: It is indeed. And the taigs remark isn’t a lot better.

Second person: So did it just slip out? Or…

First person: Well that’s just it. Either it slipped out accidentally, and so revealed the way Ms McNally thinks of people who disagree with her politically, or it was said deliberately.

Second person:Deliberately? Why would she use such language deliberately?

First person: Well we can’t be certain but maybe because she thinks it’ll help win David Simpson votes.

Second person: How could it do that?

First person: Well, it could confirm in the minds of a section of the electorate that David Simpson in his alter ego as Ms McNally is contemptuous of Ms Seeley in particular and the nationalist/republican electorate in general.

Second person: And you think a section of the electorate might cry “Huzza!” and pump the air at the thought? Not to mention vote for David Simpson?

First person:  It’s possible.

Second person: That suggests David Simpson has a low opinion  of a swathe of the people who will vote for him.

First person: Or maybe he knows a bit of sectarian and personal insult goes a long way to help a DUP candidate such as himself get elected.

Second person: That’s depressing.

First person: Indeed. But it might also be true. And effective. Rally the troops, get them ‘uns returned to their back-of-the-bus box.

Second person:  That’s even more depressing. You’re sure Roberta McNally hasn’t declared herself ashamed and apologised? Or that David Simpson hasn’t disowned people who use language like that?

First person: Perfectly sure.

Second person: Dear God. I hope nationalists and republicans at least are outraged by this sort of talk.

First person: I think you could say that.

Second person: And that they’ll express their outrage on 7 May.

First person:  That remains to be seen.

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43 Responses to Roberta McNally, David Simpson, Catherine Seeley and two people

  1. IrelandSaoirse April 15, 2015 at 8:46 am #

    What do you expect from a pig but a grunt.

  2. Oriel27 April 15, 2015 at 9:20 am #

    Good post Jude
    – but its a very sad state of affairs, and no amount of peace building, hand shacking, apologizing, wishing for a better future together, educate together etc etc etc will get rid of that negative sectarian attitude, that attitude of distrust, that attitude of against the Irish & against the Catholics – will ever be eradicated.
    I worked in a factory in Lurgan, and i was called the ‘Irish Man’ from Ireland, me coming from Monaghan.
    Im 34, and even there is no violence etc, one feels it will never be equal. When the protestant community continue to pollute and paste every lamp post etc every June to October with those wretched flags (Union Jacks), how can one feel equal? How can they call that a culture? Those their culture amount to everything that amounts to being anti irish, anti catholic?
    God i feel sorry for these planters descendants. they really don’t have a viable culture, and their power, control over these 6 counties is diminishing day by day. The poor creatures were used by the English royals 400 years ago, they were moved from their homelands across the water just to ‘englishsize’ ulster…… they were used to destroy the Irish culture, language, take lands etc. etc. Oh the panic on my fellow work colleagues faces here in Lisburn when they thought Scotland was leaving the union last year was priceless!.

    Anyway as they say in my home country, its no wonder all the protestants are in the good land. …
    Anyway, this attitude of anti-irish will be defeated, it will cease. Equality will prevail in the end.
    Look at my own town Monaghan, at one time it was a great stronghold of Protestantism in Ulster. The UVF had the strongest battalion their at one time.
    From reading Charles Gavin Duffy books, during the period from 1816 to 1870, there was massive anti catholic movements in monaghan. There was massive riots in monaghan town, there was people who were hanged for protesting against these marches (his books are available in the library in monaghan). There were upwards of 30 orange halls alone. My own ancestor fell off a horse coming from a fair on the outskirts of the town and was killed. The Horse had been scared by an Orange march and thus reacted; the local paper refused to print the news. He died and left a wife and 9 children orphaned.
    Thankfully orangism in monaghan is no longer triumphant and is now respectful and peaceful to the other community. In Drum and Newbliss were they still march, there is much respect now. There is good peace now between the 2 communities in monaghan.

    There is a good feeling of equals now, a feeling of respect for each other and tolerance. Look at monaghan court house, look above it – there is the finest ‘British coat of arms’ one would see, anywhere in Ulster.
    Anyway, the other day i was walking in Portadown, i stopped to read a monument in front of St Marks church, this monument displayed a quote from our great Cavan man, the honourable EJ Saunderson, ‘Home Rule wont get past the bridge in Portadown’ or something like that…. he died in 1906.
    Oh he must be turning in his grave to see how things changing and progressing towards equality….

    • Cushy Glen April 15, 2015 at 1:45 pm #

      No doubt from your post you hope that Ireland will be returned to the mother church one day & the ‘planters’ will be no more.
      The Final Solution? A pure Gaelic nation?
      No less sectarian than ms McNally’s rant. In fact it’s much worse. I’m surprised Jude published it. Perhaps bigotry is only bigotry when it’s express ed by ‘planters?

      • neill April 15, 2015 at 4:38 pm #

        That thought had crossed my mind Cushy Glen

      • Larry Murphy April 15, 2015 at 6:14 pm #

        Cushy Glen

        “Ireland will be returned to the mother church one day & the ‘planters’ will be no more.
        The Final Solution? A pure Gaelic nation?”

        Please calm down, take a few deep beaths and re-read Oriel’s contribution.

        He relates how his home County of Monaghan once suffered from the evils of militant Orange sectarianism and how life is immeasurably improved since that has disappeared. He is dismayed to find the same evil is still rampant in N. Ireland and hopes/prays/predicts that it will disappear ‘up here’ as well.

        “Thankfully orangism in monaghan is no longer triumphant and is now respectful and peaceful to the other community. In Drum and Newbliss were they still march, there is much respect now. There is good peace now between the 2 communities in monaghan.

        “There is a good feeling of equals now, a feeling of respect for each other and tolerance. Look at monaghan court house, look above it – there is the finest ‘British coat of arms’ one would see, anywhere in Ulster.”

        How on earth can you call that sectarian or bigoted ..??

        • Cushy Glen April 19, 2015 at 11:39 am #

          Larry
          I found Oriel27’s post racist in fact.

          Here’s why:
          “God i feel sorry for these planters descendants. they really don’t have a viable culture, and their power, control over these 6 counties is diminishing day by day. The poor creatures were used by the English royals 400 years ago,”

          From this it is safe to assume that Oriel27 sees all ‘Protestants/ Planters’ as interlopers, usurpers with no right to be on the island. The fact that he/she describes Protestant as ‘Planters’ is a fairly good indication of how this person views Protestants.

          I’d call that that racist. Similar in fact to how the Nazis saw the Jews – I believe they used the term ‘Untermenschen’ (sub human). What’s the Irish equivalent?

          My family is Protestant by religion. They came here in the mid 19th century & paid for everything. They were given nothing. We see ourselves as Irish, but maybe the Gaelic racial purists like Oriel27 see us as mongrels. Are we ‘Planters’? If not how will you weed out the Planters who were given land 4-500 years ago from the Protestants who paid their way? Will we have to provide proof at the local Gaelic vetting office to be allowed to stay? Will we be given a star to sow onto our clothing or what?

          I am afraid by publishing Oriel27 Jude has allowed one bigoted rant to be replaced by another. Hardly a progressive step.

  3. Larry Murphy April 15, 2015 at 9:26 am #

    The Robertas of this world are horrible people, the product of centuries of mentally warped inbreeding that thrives on hatred.

    As for the candidate disowning this foul mouthed harridan – As I said yesterday:

    And as far as electability is concerned, an extreme anti-Catholic or anti-all things Irish viewpoint has never harmed the electoral prospects of Unionist* politicians.

    *DUP, OU, TUV.

    I have nothing but admiration for the excellent Ms Long and her lower case unionism ..!!

  4. Sherdy April 15, 2015 at 9:36 am #

    Jude, I’m surprised that you find this remarkable – is this not what you expect of the DUP come election time?
    As for the DUP supporter (do you really believe she’s not a member?) Roberta McNally, isn’t it a sad reflection of our society and our educational system that she unashamedly behaves like a first class ignoramus? And then she has not even the wit to withdraw or apologise for her language.
    And then who’s to say that the candidate David Simpson was not instrumental in her publicly using this language? He has form!

  5. Pat April 15, 2015 at 9:45 am #

    You’re sure Ms McNally wasn’t looking in a mirror when she made the tramp remark?

  6. giordanobruno April 15, 2015 at 11:24 am #

    Very nasty and depressing stuff.
    Let’s hope the DUP can show some leadership and make it clear they condemn such bile.

    • Jude Collins April 15, 2015 at 1:08 pm #

      I take my hat off to you, gio. Or more colloquially – fair play to you…

      • giordanobruno April 15, 2015 at 1:22 pm #

        Jude
        Well thanks.
        I know you might be forgiven for thinking otherwise, but I’m not actually a unionist so I deserve no praise for stating what is fairly obvious.
        I have no doubt the very few unionists that frequent this site will be just as clear in their condemnation. I would like to think the majority of the population would feel the same.

        • Jude Collins April 15, 2015 at 1:26 pm #

          Indeed. The depressing thing for me is that David and Roberta clearly figure that this will play well with their constituency. I can only hope it’s a very small and non-representative minority…

        • RJC April 15, 2015 at 1:51 pm #

          It’s one thing for the for ‘the average’ unionist to condemn this sort of carry on from the DUP, but it’s in the polling booths where people can make their condemnation explicit. The DUP do not deserve anybody’s vote.

          And yes, I know someone will jump on here soon and say that a vote for SF equates to a tacit acceptance of the atrocities and murders carried out by the IRA.

          And then someone else will come on and say that it is nearly 20 years since the final IRA ceasefire, and that we should be judging our politicians on their practices and behaviour in 2015. And around and around we will go…

          In summary then – Don’t Vote For the DUP! 🙂

  7. Perkin Warbeck April 15, 2015 at 11:59 am #

    Roberta McNally. David Simpson.

    McNally? Simpson.?

    These two surnames have developed quite a habit of teaming up and producing results which might make your average donkey want to bray in County Wicklow.

    In an episode of the Simpsons dear old reliable Roberta, oops, Bart mistook Rand McNally for a country, causing Lisa to mock: ‘ In the land of Rand McNally the people wear hats on their feet and the hamburgers eat folks’.

    Roberta didn’t quite do a Bart though it might be said that instead of putting her hat on her foot, she did manage to put said foot into her m.

    Consider the origins of the surname, McNally. And observe the daughter of Ulster cartwheeling towards the somersault.

    The leprechaun tells us that it is a bastardised version of ‘Mac an Fhailghigh’, which translates as the (gulp) ‘Son of a Poor man’. Or, all things being the same difference these days (cf. Butch MacAleasy-peasy) ‘Daughter of a Poor woman’.

    Does the hound of Ulster detect with his ever alert nostrils the unmistakable whiff of curry?

    Closer to the bone of home, in Ulster (6/9) it can signify ‘Mac Con Uladh’ / ‘Son of the Hound of Ulster’ or, given one’s preference ‘Daughter of the B. of Ulster’.

    Sniff? Sniff? Definitely: the unquestionable whiff of curried yogurt.

    The rolling stock of Norn Irony just keeps on coming down the track. Truly is it the Orange Blossom Special which continues to give. It might be classified as an obsessive- compulsive disorder (ocd).. An Orange disorder, even, give or take.

    And it both complements and compliments that current ocd du jour in that other Centre of Excellence of OCD’s, the Free Southern Stateen: the obsessive compulsive washing of hands. Where the dissing of the MOPEs with impunity by the DOPEs is concerned.

    If Fintan O’Toole of The Unionist Times is the Pontius Pilate of this OCD then Ruth Dudley Edwards of the Irish Dependent might be classified as his, erm, co-Pilate. Coincidentally, both these obsessive compulsive hand washers are both graduates of UCD.

    Ergo, we are unlikely to be reading of Roberta taking any flak in either of their high-minded homilies.

    For the first time both Pilate and his co-Pilate ( a somewhat lethal combo these days) saw the facebook of the DUP they thought that the sun rose in its eyes and the mooning and the stars were the gift it gave to the dark underbelly of Taig and Taigeen.

    Of course, FOT, around whose fifth column there is mucho footfall – he is known, is he not, as the man who makes up their mind for the mindless ? – has been rather busy on the brain front of late. Re-writing the Proclamation, a hundred years on, that sort of thingy.

    Perkie’s inner poetaster was flailing around for a simile the better to pithily encapsulate this exercise in variations. And then – donner und blitzen ! – the death of Gunter Grass was announced.

    Of course ! The g-word. Grass.

    Danke schon, Gunter: Perkie is in your debt.

    In the middle of Ninetheenth Century the French painter Eduardo Manet painted his now-classic ‘Dejeuner dur l’herbe’ / ‘Picnic on the Grass’ . Fintan of the Fine Mind, who is fond of slum quoting one of his literary heroes, Roddy D, might choose to describe it in Dublinese (the bleedin’ best English in the whole wide world,bar none): ‘Knacker-Drinking on the Green’.

    A hundred years or so later, Pablo Picasso, the Spanish painter with Catalonian sympathies, began his variations of the classic painting.

    Now, Manet in his masterpiece had set four figures in a woodland clearing with a stream winding through it:in the foreground on the left of the picture is the remains of their picnic, rolls and cherries scattered around a (gulp) green-lined basket; then comes a fine lively plump tramp, oops ! mademoiselle, sitting on her discarded blue dress, her elbow on her knee and her chin on her hand.

    While she is looking saucily straight ahead at the viewer, beside her to the right sit two fully-dressed dandies who converse with each other while pointedly ignoring Mademoiselle Nue. One of these bearded dudes could well double as a youthful D. Norris (Senator), a buffer in a snuff-coloured coat, while the other might or might not have been born under the sign of Leo.

    To the rear of this pair of dandified dudes another young woman, lightly clad in her shift is bathing in a convenient stream.

    Mademoiselle Nue of the monumental mammary glands is the character who most impacts on the memory of most viewers of a particular gender or none. Mme. Victorine Maurend was the model in her prime. Alas, she was not to live up to her, erm, proclaimed promise and was to finish her nights as a sad old crone selling poppies in the streets of Paris.

    Roisin Dubh, as it were, seeing out her nights, forlornly, as a Sean-Bhean Bhocht.

    When Pabs Picasso set about a task, he did not stint. He could well have been appointed a Minister for Industry during a Fine Gael Government in the Free Southern Stateen, not least during his, erm, Blue Period.

    He just didn’t paint one variations but (deep breath) no less than a hudnred and fifty-odd (very) drawings and twenty-seven paintings. Phew.

    Perkie’s inner anal-retentive psychoanalyst suspects we are entering, deeply, into Obsessive Compulsive Disorder territory here once again. (see above).

    Preferring to leave informed art-criticism to the experts (come in, Paddykool, your time is now !) all he will say is that Perkie knows what he likes. Definitely more of a boobist than a cubist.

    As for The O’Toole: as there is the entrails of a year to go till the Centenary of Easter 1916 one suspects, given the turbo energy of Fintan’s Fine mind, he will have produced at least twenty six (sic) revisions of the Proclamation as a result of his hundred and fifty odd (very) drawings of the long bow.

    And given his stance on the upcoming Same-Difference Referendum and despite the insistence of his surname one is calmly confident he will proclaim himself to be a cubist rather than a boobist.

  8. RJC April 15, 2015 at 12:05 pm #

    Same old, same old DUP. The more the world changes, the more they stay the same.

    In reality, these Westminster elections have precious little bearing on things here. Sinn Féin don’t take their seats anyway, and in Westminster the DUP are regarded with disdain at best.

    That said, I’d love to see Gerry Kelly take Belfast North and for Naomi Long to retain Belfast East. If only to see the looks on their faces. Get out and vote, people! Just don’t vote for the DUP.

  9. neill April 15, 2015 at 1:32 pm #

    Shameful behaviour and she should be called to apologise straight away and David Simpson saying nothing either about it is wrong entirely wrong.

    I would have no problem abusing Ms Seeley policies which I dislike but to attack with spiteful names is childish and boorish in the extreme.

    • Jude Collins April 15, 2015 at 4:30 pm #

      I doff my headgear to you too, Neill – well said. Maith thú, even…

    • Chunks April 15, 2015 at 7:54 pm #

      Neill, as our resident unionist, could you tell us how this type of thing plays with unionists? Is McNally reputation up or down?

      • neill April 16, 2015 at 8:25 am #

        Oh God I have become the token unionist!

        Badly most will be embarrassed some will be horrified and a small number will say bang on target the last group are sadly beyond help

        Will it gain the DUP an extra vote no not at all

        • Jude Collins April 16, 2015 at 9:57 am #

          That last sentence, neill – are you sure??

          • neill April 16, 2015 at 10:08 am #

            Yes because the unpleasant rump who make those type of statements would view that the dup have sold out

        • Larry Murphy April 16, 2015 at 6:31 pm #

          Neill

          Horrified and embarrassed? So the Protestant/Unionist people of N. Ireland who for fifty years voted for the rotten and evil governments that institutionalised Sectarianism Bigotry Discrimination and Bigotry have suddenly developed sensitivity and possibiy a collective conscience.

          • Larry Murphy April 16, 2015 at 6:39 pm #

            The second Bigotry should be Gerrymandering, though double Bigotry would not have been a problem to a Unionist Government.

            Suffice it to say that I believe your analysis of Protestant/Unionist reaction to Roberta’s Rant to be wildly inaccurate.

          • neill April 17, 2015 at 6:45 am #

            I am as embarrassed about that Larry as you should be about a third of the catholic community supporting armed violence against their neighbours between 1970-1994 however knowing you I would doubt you would fell any real shame at all.

        • Chunks April 20, 2015 at 9:07 pm #

          Neill,

          Thanks for replying. Can I ask one more question?

          You say

          “Will it gain the DUP an extra vote no not at all…because the unpleasant rump who make those type of statements would view that the dup have sold out”

          But McNally is in the DUP camp. Should she not have throw in with the TUV or PUP or something?

          Maybe there are local factors at play that trump the DUP-are-sell-outs line.

  10. ANOTHER JUDE April 15, 2015 at 1:36 pm #

    The only saving grace is that people like her no longer call the shots, back in the old days she would have been in a position of power, now she is a nonentity. Well, compared to the many intelligent and influential women in Sinn Féin. As for tramps, well maybe she means the young ladies who tramp behind Orange bands, can in hand, singing filthy songs? The unionist parties are presently trying to outdo each other as far as anti Catholic/Nationalist/Republican insults go. The young lady in question is merely expressing what a lot of her so called superiors think. Jim Alister was being interviewed by the excellent Mark Carruthers and he couldn`t see the irony in his little party not standing in constituencies where the main Unionist parties have a pact, his so called forensic mind couldn`t grasp the inconsistencies in him standing aside so someone he professes to detest, Robinson, would have a better chance of being elected. I suppose anyone prepared to be photographed years ago with the other Paisleyites with a giant sledgehammer calling for Sinn Féin to be `smashed` (that campaign went well, eh Jim?) isn`t going to be able to see logic.

  11. Freddy Mallins April 15, 2015 at 4:19 pm #

    It is very depressing, Jude. But it calls to mind our former President’s remarks about the teaching in many Protestant schools and the propagation of an irrational hatred of Catholicism. Then sadly she invoked the National Socialism reference and as Godwin’s law dictates, lost the argument. There was much faux-outrage from Unionism and unfortunately the important points she made were lost.

    • neill April 15, 2015 at 7:42 pm #

      Schools don’t cause children to hate people parents do and sadly many nationalists and unionists have been brought up in homes like this that’s sad however that seems to be the way of it

  12. Ryan April 15, 2015 at 4:47 pm #

    Its the same every election when it comes to the DUP, always some form of sectarian insult towards “them’uns” (Catholics) in order to get the minority of bigots within the Unionist electorate out to vote DUP instead of some other branch of Unionism. What a sad and frankly pathetic form of politics which Unionism resorts to, which isn’t surprising, it was literally founded on sectarian politics. We often see it with the likes of Gregory Campbell with his comments on the Irish language and his treating of Sinn Fein’s wish list as “toilet paper”. Its all to get the bigots out voting. I’m just glad that the pool of Unionist bigots has been shrinking over the past 2 decades. (BTW, I’m not referring to all Unionists or Protestants as bigots, I’m certain the majority of them are decent people who have no time for any sort of sectarianism, maybe explains why more and more of them couldn’t be bothered to vote Unionist anymore). Its also important to note Catherine Seeley is the same woman who loyalists waged a campaign of intimidation and threats against (mainly from Facebook) because she was a Catholic working in what is considered a Protestant school. She eventually had to leave her job because of the threats. (The pupils of the same school came out in support of Catherine and said she was a wonderful teacher).

    Upper Bann isn’t a safe seat for Unionism, if enough nationalists get out and vote for Sinn Fein they could sneak through and win the seat. It would certainly help if SDLP voters gave Sinn Fein their vote because SF is the only nationalist party that can realistically win the seat.

    North Belfast and Upper Bann are maybe the only two seats Sinn Fein can potentially take from the DUP, so I would urge all the voters in those areas to vote Sinn Fein and get rid of the sectarian DUP and elect an MP who will represent EVERYONE, not just one side of the community. The look on the DUP’s faces alone at the loss of these seats would be worth it 🙂

    (Chunks, remember when I said Unionism is its own worst enemy? here’s another example)

    • neill April 16, 2015 at 8:32 am #

      Since SF will not take their seats in the House of Commons how possibly can you say they represent everybody perhaps one day the rose tainted glasses may fall away from your nose?

  13. Pat Kelly April 15, 2015 at 9:09 pm #

    First Person : When does a Catholic become a Taig ?

    Second Person : When they leave the room.

    • ben madigan April 15, 2015 at 10:15 pm #

      Pat – a catholic never becomes a taig –

      a catholic is always a taig – even if he has won the victoria cross

      https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/11/14/catholic-ex-servicemen-dont-count/

      • neill April 16, 2015 at 8:34 am #

        Piffle Ben absolute Piffle that’s like saying every prod is a planter who stole my families land if you believe in absurdities….

        • ben madigan April 16, 2015 at 12:40 pm #

          Pity you don’t like hearing the facts Neill –

          it’s all documented –
          have a look at the reference list, click on the links and read all about what happened!!

          All the info is in the public domain
          It is no secret

          Suggestions:

          If you adopt a mindset that refuses to acknowledge facts you probably have great difficulties in dealing with reality .

          Declaring facts are “piffle” (what a belittling word) does not change reality .
          It just illustrates your profound state of denial and need for illusions

          • neill April 16, 2015 at 3:52 pm #

            Ok to follow on from your argument if I meet you and after you left the room I would think you were a taig rather than a human being now come don’t be daft!

            I would probably think you were a sod goodness knows what you would think of me!

  14. ben madigan April 16, 2015 at 11:12 pm #

    see you’re still in denial Neill.

    you’re not dealing with the facts set out in the link about the Catholic ex-servicemen

    Since you can’t cope with reality you’re resorting to good old British slang to insult

    Did you know sod (Origin 1875-80) came from a shortening of sodomite?

    Alternatively, you may mean I am a bit of a bastard or an old git

    Why the veiled insults? Are they the only thing you’ve got left to support your point of view?

  15. Sean April 17, 2015 at 4:00 pm #

    wonder what Roberta will do when she is in court.
    Ms Seeley will not be accepting any apology,

  16. neill April 17, 2015 at 4:49 pm #

    You seem to be quite chippy Ben has a prod ran off with your partner?

  17. ben madigan April 17, 2015 at 8:21 pm #

    Neill – did nobody ever tell you that it’s a good idea to stop digging when you’re in a hole?

    Since you can’t cope with reality you’re once again resorting to good old British slang to insult as mudslinging appears to be the only thing you have got left to support your argument (whatever it was ?)

    “Chippy” (adjective)

    Word Origin
    C19: from chip (n), sense probably developing from: as dry as a chip ofwood, hence irritable, touchy
    Quarrelsome, resentful or over-sensitive about being perceived as inferior:

    “Projection” Freudians exclaim!!!

    Who’s been perceiving one part of the population as inferior to the other half since NI was founded?

    Don’t forget you’re the one that can’t cope with facts.

    PS have you read that link about Catholic ex-servicemen yet?.

    Here it is again,

    https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/11/14/catholic-ex-servicemen-dont-count/

    just in case you’ve mislaid it in the fog of your arguments

    • neill April 18, 2015 at 10:45 am #

      Here is your argument

      Pat – a catholic never becomes a taig –

      a catholic is always a taig – even if he has won the victoria cross

      And you have the audacity to accuse me of digging a hole for myself.

      You made a spurious argument with one link and therefore it is a fact.

      So 900,000 people in Northern Ireland who are protestants are sectarian good grief man listen to yourself.

      That purchase of a dictionary was an inspired buy for you next time you are out buy a brain to accompany it.

  18. ben madigan April 18, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

    Neill – you haven’t done your homework!!!

    The link is backed up by a series of factual reports from books and high-quality British newspapers.
    Try reading them and then try refuting the evidence

    Nowhere does it say all protestants are sectarian bigots
    It says Loyalists are
    If you conflate Loyalists with all protestants, that’s your problem ( guilt complex?)

    “That purchase of a dictionary was an inspired buy for you next time you are out buy a brain to accompany it.”

    See you’re mudslinging as usual ( denigrating my intellectual abilities this time round rather than sexual or personaliy features . What’s left?)

    Insults appear to be the only thing you have got left to support your argument – whatever it is ?

  19. neill April 19, 2015 at 5:43 pm #

    denigrating my intellectual abilities you do that all by yourself with no help from me