‘SERIOUSLY AMENDED “Ecclesia Delenda Est!” The Killing of the Catholic Faith’ by Joe McVeigh

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My apologies – I should have included this in the first version – a total misunderstanding and my apologies to Joe especially.This email from him clarifies my massive boo-boo….

Jude, that piece was not written by me! It was taken from this publication below which I received in my mail. I don’t think it is clear that I totally reject this nonsense from the Fatima Network and that I fully support Pope Francis. Joe McVeigh




“Ecclesia Delenda Est!”

The Killing of the Catholic Faith

During the protracted wars between Carthage and Rome, every oration in the Roman Senate ended with the phrase: “Carthago delenda est!” — Carthage must be destroyed.

This exhortation was intended to keep before the minds of the rulers and the people the primacy of vanquishing Rome’s mortal enemy. All other public business, no matter how pressing, was to be subordinated to the campaign for survival. Peaceful co-existence was neither considered desirable nor possible. Roman politicians never spoke about the virtues of Carthage or the cultural enrichment that might follow social interaction between the two powers. And every Carthaginian youth was raised to hate Rome and to set his heart and mind on its destruction.

Hatred lives in hell; but hatred layered in lies lives in the deepest circle of hell. Dante places in satan’s mouth those who pretended friendship, but plotted murder. There is a timeless poignancy in Caesar’s final words, “Et tu, Brute?” Nothing hurts like betrayal.

All of this is preamble to what appears to be taking place in the Church now. Scarcely a day goes by without some commentator in the Catholic blogosphere or journalistic world registering “shock” at something Pope Francis has said or done that appears to contradict or call into question the immemorial teaching of the Church, including that of his immediate predecessors (see:  “Praise for Dr. Mirus”).

Francis uses every public event, every talk, every interview (especially what has been aptly called the “airplane magisterium”) to attack Catholic doctrine and to disparage and insult those who defend it and try to live by its precepts (see:  “The Airplane Magisterium and Its Consequences”).  Those who, for whatever reasons, are determined to defend Francis’ heterodox and heretical statements as capable of orthodox interpretation, are finding it increasingly difficult not to sound ridiculous.

If Francis were to be completely honest, all his public statements would end with the phrase, “Ecclesia delenda est!” — The Church must be destroyed!

The “Church” that Francis is intent upon destroying is the Catholic Faith and practice as it existed prior to the Vatican II revolution; one might even say, prior to his papacy, so sweeping is his explicit contempt for all that has preceded him (see:  “An Anti-Catholic Pope?”).

Francis’ program is not essentially different from that of his recent predecessors, but he is less cautious, less concerned with the appearance of continuity. He also has inherited an institution ravaged by a half-century of doctrinal and liturgical upheaval and moral scandal, and he is not averse to exploiting the confusion and cynicism among Catholics trying to find their footing in the cratered landscape of the post-conciliar Church.

And, to his added advantage, few Catholics are now taught their catechism, so Francis’ departures from orthodoxy go unnoticed except by older or more informed Catholics and clergy, some of whom are not averse to seeing one or another of the Church’s doctrines eclipsed by a more appealing and contemporary teaching.

Francis appears determined to bring to a conclusion the work of demolition begun by PopeJohn XXIII and carried on steadily, incrementally, by Paul VI, John Paul II and Pope Benedict. It was, let us recall, the emeritus, now looked upon nostalgically as the embodiment of Tradition, who called for the “demolition of long-standing bastions” in the Church (see:  “The Demolition of Bastions”). Francis and his allies, swinging the wrecking ball with such happy abandon, appear intent upon leveling whatever remains of the edifice of Catholic orthodoxy.

One might describe the overarching aim of the Bergoglio papacy as ecclesial euthanasia. Call it a mercy killing. The old Church — the pre-Francis Church — must be put down, like the sad, suffering dog it is. Why prolong its misery? No one wants it around anymore. And those who still want the comfort of religion, want it without any uncomfortable obligations attached.

Let the people — meaning me — decide what’s Catholic, says Francis. Take marriage, for instance. Marriage is just a word, just a ceremony of dubious value and validity. Who can say whether these Catholic marriages are even real? (See:  “Debacle at the Lateran – Part I”.) If that’s the case, what sense does it make to talk about people “living in sin” just because they haven’t gone through some sham ritual whose meaning they don’t even understand? In fact, the unmarried may be more married than the married. Don’t ask for explanations of this seeming nonsense. As Francis says, he’s always been “irresponsible.” He likes it.  And, after all, who are we to judge? (See:  “A Tale of Two Synods”.)

Near the end of his life, Father Gruner undertook a major work: Crucial Truths to Save Your Soul. Father knew that a time was at hand when the attack upon Catholic doctrine would become intense and sustained and that it would be led by those within the Church. It was to prepare us for this time that Father wrote his last book. We must fortify ourselves with the fundamental truths of the Faith if we are to stand with Our Lady during this final battle.

The diabolical disorientation Sister Lucy warned us about is here. The only way to survive it with our Faith intact is to turn to Our Lady of Fatima. She is our only help, the only hope for the Church and the world.




9 Responses to ‘SERIOUSLY AMENDED “Ecclesia Delenda Est!” The Killing of the Catholic Faith’ by Joe McVeigh

  1. jessica August 1, 2016 at 8:02 am #

    I like Pope Francis but I suspect he was chosen to stem the move away from the catholic church in the modern world.
    His predecessors were barely Christian especially in their handling of child sex abuse in Ireland.

    I like very much his latest comments that we are not here to vegetate but should get our boots laced or words to that effect.

    What I take him to mean is we are only here once, don’t waste it and try to make the place better for present and future generations not worse, through getting off our arses and making an effort.

    Whatever I feel about the catholic church in recent times, Pope Francis is a good man.

  2. Scott Rutherford August 1, 2016 at 9:01 am #

    I’m not sure how a Orthodox Roman Catholic can complain about the decisions or views of the Pope, when one of the main doctrines in the RC church is Papal primacy i.e. the popes word is law and unquestionable.

    This is how I understand it anyway, though I’m far from a expert.

    I also like this pope and applaud his attempts to liberalise the church, although as a Anglican it’s certainly not my place to tell the RC church what it should or shouldn’t do.

    I suspect his attempts to modernise the church is also out of need, as the world is moving forward and the church will only become a relic of the past if it does not move with it. That is the same with all denominations.

  3. donal kennedy August 1, 2016 at 10:24 am #

    And I had thought Pope Francis was a Catholic!

    Next you’ll tell us Joe, that Bears don’t relieve themselves in the woods?

    By the way, wasn’t it Cato the Censor who used say Carthago Delenda Est?

  4. Mary Jo August 1, 2016 at 10:42 am #

    I thought it was I who left the Catholic Church 40 years ago when Vatican 2 went into reverse but realise, since Francis became Pope, that it was the Church that left me. Now, since the miraculous outcome of that last Conclave, I can be a practising Catholic without denying my own conscience.

    Each time Pope Francis speaks on behalf of the poor, the vulnerable and the persecuted, I feel the power of the Holy Spirit at work in the world. Pope Francis guides us in the path of humility. His words, “Who am I to judge?” roll back hundreds of years of vain, cruel scholasticism.

    I am sorry to read of your resistance to change, based on theological quibbles. You too have been a power for good, challenging the injustices perpetrated by the strong against the weak.

    I hope and trust that the Church will eventually find ways to reconcile the differences that divide us and ensure that we restore and preserve our great 2000 year old tradition of Catholic Faith.

  5. ANOTHER JUDE August 1, 2016 at 12:41 pm #

    I can not agree with Jessica`s words regarding Pope Francis`s predecessors, say what you want but Benedict and John Paul II were good men who promoted the true Faith, not a lukewarm watered down version. I love Francis but he was totally wrong to say there is no religious element to the current terrorism taking place day and daily. How can he say that when the old Priest was murdered simply for being a Priest by bastards loyal to an Islamic death cult?

    • jessica August 1, 2016 at 7:41 pm #

      I was young but remember my parents taking me to see John Paul II when he visited Ireland AJ.
      He was the most popular pope I can remember.

      When I heard he had authorised the cover up of Irish sex abuse in Ireland it soured a lot of memories.

      It is up to individuals how they deal with the revelations, but I don’t think the catholic church has done nearly enough to make up for its actions in Ireland.

      I am not joking when I say, at the moment of unification, as a good will gesture, they should really consider giving over all of the school grounds to the state.

  6. KopparbergCentral August 1, 2016 at 2:06 pm #

    “The Church must be destroyed” And why not? It’s served it’s medieval purpose of doping the minds of people for 2000 years and letting them get through the unedifying prospect of how shitily quick life can be.

  7. Brian Patterson August 1, 2016 at 4:28 pm #

    This sounds like a rant. Can we have specifics,Fr. Joe.

  8. Croiteir (@Croiteir) August 1, 2016 at 4:31 pm #

    However the good news is that Tradition is arising from the ashes, most priests are turning their backs on the ’60s generation and the SSPX are close to receiving a personal prelature.