Very interesting article,Jude. I attended a lecture by Éamon Phoenix recently as part of the Comhairle Lár Uladh commemoration of the 1916 to 1921 period in lrish history. Very enlightening regarding the machinations of the Redmondite faction and their British colleagues at that time. The Treaty and its aftermath was very enlightening. I would urge people to attend the remaining lectures in Dún Geanainn and An Corr Críochach.
Alas this type of ‘blood sacrifice’ is ignored of course and even celebrated up to the present day. Anybody that seen the poppy ‘art work’ on display a while ago in London, that resembled a flow of blood, would be forgiven for thinking these sickos are fixated by blood?
Unfortunately the sickos who champion this blood sacrifice will continue to demonise great men like Pearse. In saying that they’ll be wary not to mention Pearse’s view on the education system I.e ‘the Murder Machine’. They wouldn’t want people to realise that that same ‘Murder Machine’ still exists today, and very much so.
I don’t know what you mean by why we have bad backs and I don’t know what historical baggage you refer to.
The only baggage I carry is from what I have lived through and my head is more in the here and now than in any books history or otherwise.
If a book is full of shit, then reading them only makes us full of the same shit in my view.
If I am going to be full of shit, then at least it will be my own.
Post nationalism was a hope, a prayer even given our history. The nationalism portrayed in that article is a cesspool of hate fascists would be proud of. If it meant bringing that conservative government would you not agree with SF going into that forum?
SF need to make sure Stormont does not come back before the past is settled once and for all. What level of truth can be agreed upon should be final and draw a line under it once and for all.
The majority of the nationalist community are behind them in standing firm until this happens no matter what. It would be a mistake to lose this momentum and pressure which is greater than any could be achieved through violence.
If they bottle it or cave in, then the momentum will be lost and electoral politics in the north can go back in the bin.
Post nationalism is simply appeasement for the sake of peace and in the face of oppression that is cowardice.
I am an a Irish nationalist. I want Ireland to be a sovereign nation that respects all of the people within its borders but at the same time protects the identity and rights of its own Irish citizens first.
I don’t want conflict or war, but I would rather fight for freedom than live like a worm.
Yes really.The SDLP in the early years was made up of AOH members in all it’s rural heartlands.In my own area even in the 80’s ,practically every SDLP councillor was an AOH member.My late father recalls fighting with some of these people on the way home from school and they would have sloganised on behalf of John Redmond.
Their membership especially in rural areas was AOH/ redmondite to the core.I also have to laugh how SDLP supporters now attempt to rewrite history by ignoring how Devlin and Fitt were correctly kicked out for their pro unionist antics(both were subsequently awarded by the british establishment with a lordship and MBE respectively) and Cooper also became persona non grata for reasons that we will not go into at this stage.
I never the name Redmond mentioned in the early 70s Collins was a traitor and Dev was the old man on tv my mother said she saw in Lifford. It was a different country then.
“I never the name Redmond mentioned in the early 70s Collins was a traitor and Dev was the old man on tv my mother said she saw in Lifford. It was a different country then.”
Me thinks Billy should have a word with you about your standard of grammar.
Very interesting article,Jude. I attended a lecture by Éamon Phoenix recently as part of the Comhairle Lár Uladh commemoration of the 1916 to 1921 period in lrish history. Very enlightening regarding the machinations of the Redmondite faction and their British colleagues at that time. The Treaty and its aftermath was very enlightening. I would urge people to attend the remaining lectures in Dún Geanainn and An Corr Críochach.
Alas this type of ‘blood sacrifice’ is ignored of course and even celebrated up to the present day. Anybody that seen the poppy ‘art work’ on display a while ago in London, that resembled a flow of blood, would be forgiven for thinking these sickos are fixated by blood?
Unfortunately the sickos who champion this blood sacrifice will continue to demonise great men like Pearse. In saying that they’ll be wary not to mention Pearse’s view on the education system I.e ‘the Murder Machine’. They wouldn’t want people to realise that that same ‘Murder Machine’ still exists today, and very much so.
Oppressed for eight centuries eh! Would that explain all the bad backs we have today?
What do you mean by that Dominic?
Would you put all that historical baggage on your “weeins” Jessica?
Dominic,you and your fellow SDLP types are Redmond’s natural successors.
Sinn Fein are constitutional nationalists now too since they work through forums like everybody else.
I don’t know what you mean by why we have bad backs and I don’t know what historical baggage you refer to.
The only baggage I carry is from what I have lived through and my head is more in the here and now than in any books history or otherwise.
If a book is full of shit, then reading them only makes us full of the same shit in my view.
If I am going to be full of shit, then at least it will be my own.
Maith thu
The day they take their seats in Westminster is the day they are as dead to me as the SDLP are already.
Constitutional false nationalists.
Post nationalism sums you lot up perfectly
Post nationalism was a hope, a prayer even given our history. The nationalism portrayed in that article is a cesspool of hate fascists would be proud of. If it meant bringing that conservative government would you not agree with SF going into that forum?
“that conservative government down”
What forum?
SF need to make sure Stormont does not come back before the past is settled once and for all. What level of truth can be agreed upon should be final and draw a line under it once and for all.
The majority of the nationalist community are behind them in standing firm until this happens no matter what. It would be a mistake to lose this momentum and pressure which is greater than any could be achieved through violence.
If they bottle it or cave in, then the momentum will be lost and electoral politics in the north can go back in the bin.
Post nationalism is simply appeasement for the sake of peace and in the face of oppression that is cowardice.
I am an a Irish nationalist. I want Ireland to be a sovereign nation that respects all of the people within its borders but at the same time protects the identity and rights of its own Irish citizens first.
I don’t want conflict or war, but I would rather fight for freedom than live like a worm.
The redmond worshippers joined the SDLP en masse at that party’s formation in 1970.
Reallly
Yes really.The SDLP in the early years was made up of AOH members in all it’s rural heartlands.In my own area even in the 80’s ,practically every SDLP councillor was an AOH member.My late father recalls fighting with some of these people on the way home from school and they would have sloganised on behalf of John Redmond.
What about Paddy Devlin Gerry Fit John Hume Ivan Cooper, the leaders of the SDLP
Their membership especially in rural areas was AOH/ redmondite to the core.I also have to laugh how SDLP supporters now attempt to rewrite history by ignoring how Devlin and Fitt were correctly kicked out for their pro unionist antics(both were subsequently awarded by the british establishment with a lordship and MBE respectively) and Cooper also became persona non grata for reasons that we will not go into at this stage.
I never the name Redmond mentioned in the early 70s Collins was a traitor and Dev was the old man on tv my mother said she saw in Lifford. It was a different country then.
“heard”
“I never the name Redmond mentioned in the early 70s Collins was a traitor and Dev was the old man on tv my mother said she saw in Lifford. It was a different country then.”
Me thinks Billy should have a word with you about your standard of grammar.
GRMA