‘Ruthie Agrees with Herself’ by Joe McVeigh


Writing in a Belfast newspaper last week, RD Edwards explains her reasons for voting for Brexit. After her curious explanation she goes on to say that she still agrees with herself.


“I finally voted ‘out’ because I thought staying shackled to an unreformed arrogant, expansionist, bullying and inept EU would be a worse option for the UK than relying on the courage and initiative of those who live in it to carve out an unindentured future.” Unindentured?Future?

She goes on: “The EU is secretive, keeps the world out, prevents members from making bi-lateral trade deals and tries to impose uniformity on their laws and governments…..I could not support staying in what I think has become a sprawling, sclerotic, dysfunctional, bureaucratic hell-hole incapable of meeting such urgent challenges as mass migration and Russian aggression, while demanding a European army that can only undermine NATO.”

To convince herself even further she reflects:

“…in November. I wrote in Prospect, a left-leaning London based magazine that as an Irish citizen and a British resident, I had voted for Brexit after much soul searching because I thought it in the interests of a majority of the people in these islands and indeed in Europe. But the fear and distress evident among many Irish people was getting to me, so I finished my article with:’ “Now watching the hurt and fear among my countrymen, (sic) I feel strongly that the British government owes it to its small neighbour to make every effort to minimise the collateral damage.

I’m pleased to find I agree with myself on all that.”


In spite of all the learned arguments showing how worse off we, in the Six Counties, will be out of Europe, she still thinks she did the right thing to vote to Leave the EU. She now wants Dublin to work closely with Westminster to minimise the damage!


Ruthie states: ‘The British government is genuinely trying to minimise the pain of Ireland, north and south.’ She now hopes that Dublin will work with the British to find solutions to problems that matter desperately on this island but few will care much about in Brussels’. I would say fewer still care about in London.


Ruthie does not care about the damage the Leave vote will do to the Irish economy or to the Good Friday Agreement and to the future relationships on this island. She could not care less about how Brexit will negatively affect citizens living in border areas in Ireland.


All of this is of no concern to Ruthie. She is standing by the right wing fascists like Farange and Co who contrived through advertising and media promotion to dragEngland out of Europe to protect their borders from foreigners.


According to Ruthie, ‘In the pursuit of power Gerry Adams is banking on a hard Brexit’. According to her twisted logic it will be in Gerry’s interest to have border customs posts along with British army military posts. You can only guess where she is going with this twisted logic.


It is good that she still agrees with herself. It would be dreadful now if she did not. There is a name for that condition.




31 Responses to ‘Ruthie Agrees with Herself’ by Joe McVeigh

  1. Cal August 31, 2017 at 11:20 am #

    Ruth tends to highlight her Irish Citizenship when writing for a wider audience. She is no more Irish than the kapos were Jews in my view.

    • Tam August 31, 2017 at 10:19 pm #

      Your view is very disturbing.

  2. giordanobruno August 31, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

    Ah Joey, gracious as ever.
    Your idiosyncratic take on the teachings of Christ will be missed.

  3. huge Celt. August 31, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

    “We didn’t fight the British for 500 years just to hand power over to Brussels”. – Gerry Adams 2012.

    “Leaving the EU is disastrous” – Michelle O’Neill 2017.

    Will the real Sinn Fein please stand up.

    • Ceannaire August 31, 2017 at 1:06 pm #

      It’s called politics and pragmatism. PBP should try it sometime.

      • huge Celt. August 31, 2017 at 5:20 pm #

        It’s called a colossal U-turn based on an obsession for free loot..

      • huge Celt. August 31, 2017 at 5:27 pm #

        How can anyone trust anything that Sinn Fein promise in any future Border Poll when they can so casually flip on such a huge issue such as membership of the EU?

        And then, to add insult to injury, they then blatantly smear and lie about their political opponents position.

        It doesn’t bode well for any sort of future, does it.

  4. Mick Early August 31, 2017 at 12:53 pm #

    She is probably still mourning g her old roommate, Sean who drowned last week!

  5. M E Moore August 31, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

    Just another over 65 year old baby boomer who’s screwed over the younger generation.

  6. Eolach August 31, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

    It’s completely irrelevant what imperial xenophobes like RDE think ( or write ). They are given column inches in , sparsley read , right-wing papers of no consequence.The majority of young adults obtain their news through social media , where a myriad of different viewpoints present themselves instantly for judgement. They are the most discerning of adults and the pre-formed opinions of their parents matter little. These enlightened and judicious people are the educated generation…..they are our future and through many , sometimes heated , conversations I know that that future is secure. They don’t carry the battle scars ,the prejudices and the hang-ups of my generation….that war was before their time and they intend for it to stay buried. I have grandchildren at Queens ,republican to the back bone , but they are able to drink and socialise with Unionists ….argue together , debate intently , but still able to remain on friendly terms……I’m confident of our future ….because they’re confident!

    • Pointis August 31, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

      I agree with you Eolach. We do spend too much time fixated on the words of an individual who’s views are completely at odds with Irish people. The press love such individuals because they trigger all those emotions such as anger, inquisitiveness, and awe which attract us to read their views even though we may do so with distain. She could be seen as an anti-republican version of Katie Hopkins.

      • giordanobruno August 31, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

        Pure personal attack from you and Eolach.
        This is likely one of the reasons Jude is closing down the comments.
        Can we not raise the tone for the last few hours at least?
        Probably not.

        • Eolach August 31, 2017 at 6:08 pm #

          If you can contradict or refute my allegations that RDH is neither a xenophobe nor an imperialist , I will gladly apologize to you. There was no “personal attack” ….I was merely highlighting the attributes that she so willingly and vainly seeks for herself. She has made a long but irrelevant career by denigrating anything at variance with her skewed and inaccurate version of Irish history and the proud and noble cause of Irish freedom. I have the right to refute her incessant diatribe and will continue to do so wherever she spews her verbal diarrhoea.

          • giordanobruno September 1, 2017 at 6:43 am #

            You made the claim. It is for you to provide the evidence.
            You have not refuted anything she said at all. Indeed I wish you would.

        • Pointis August 31, 2017 at 7:02 pm #

          It is much more likely that Jude is shutting down the comments because of people like you Gio. You are constantly sniping at other contributors.

          I can’t blame Jude because it is bound to wear him down even though he knows what you are like.

          You couldn’t even allow him to make the announcement to everyone about closing the comments section down (which must have been hard for him) without have a cheap pop at him.

          I hope you feel happy with yourself.

          • giordanobruno August 31, 2017 at 7:29 pm #

            I made a joke. Get over yourself.
            Jude has constantly asked people to refrain from personal abuse and focus on the argument.
            Would you accept that your comment did not address anything RDE said at all?
            Take an honest look at your comments and see if you feel happy with yourself/

          • Pointis August 31, 2017 at 8:21 pm #

            There you go again with the personal abuse ‘get over yourself”. There was no need for that, you could have made your point perfectly well without resorting to the personal stuff to other contributors.

            There was a time when you would have conducted yourself impeccably on Jude’s site. You would never have lowered yourself to directing personal jibes at other contributors and would have laughed off others if they directed personal comments at you, winning the moral high ground with your wit.

            Others used to respect your opinions even though they may have disagreed with them, now I suspect that many do not because they see the cynical personal jibes.

            Only you know what has changed to make you that way but I think it is a terrible shame.

          • Scott Rutherford August 31, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

            In fairness Pointis “get over yourself” is a long way off the worst of the vulgar abuse I’ve heard on here.

            Gios views were once described as dog shit.
            Ruth Dudley Edwards regularly called names and abused.
            MT got near nothing but abuse.
            Billy was mocked for making a few spelling and grammar mistakes.

            Common theme with the abuse was that it was most often than not SF supporting Nationalists that dished it out. Unionist, SDLP, PBP, Alliance, FF, FG, The SoS, Supporters of anyone other than the narrow SF party line were often heckled and abused from the Gallery.

            We lost a lot of very interesting voices because of it I reckon, people like PF, Dominic, MT etc

          • giordanobruno August 31, 2017 at 9:03 pm #

            I have to say the constant personal stuff has led to me taking the site less seriously.

            Are you bothered by insults directed towards RDE because she has different views or the personal abuse aimed at Sean O’Callaghan after his death? The endless use of terms like Neanderthal, the abuse aimed at Arlene Foster, the abuse aimed at Willie Frazer the abuse aimed at Eilish O;Hanlon, the mockery of Mountbatten, the abuse of any journalist or politician who dared challenge the SF narrative, the constant misrepresentation of views,the lazy generalisations, the attacks on the SDLP by guest bloggers, the casual sexist remarks by people who should know better, and so on and so on?
            Jude’s inability to address that stuff is I think why I became more cynical in my comments.
            But if my (fairly harmless I thought) joke has upset you well I am genuinely sorry.

      • Scott Rutherford August 31, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

        RDE views are that of an Irish person. Just because you don’t like/respect her views make them no less Irish.

        • fiosrach August 31, 2017 at 4:42 pm #

          Being born in Ireland does not make you an Irish person as you all well know.

          • huge Celt. August 31, 2017 at 5:31 pm #

            @ Fiosrach.
            Is there a pyramid of Irish citizenship that we need to know about?
            Would it look anything like this in descending order….

            West Brits
            Real Brits

          • fiosrach August 31, 2017 at 6:27 pm #

            Hip!. Irish at the bottom and Irish at the top. No room for citizens of the world. And,huge, despair not because you can work your way up the hierarchy.

          • huge Celt. August 31, 2017 at 7:26 pm #

            I’ve no idea what your point is.

          • Martin Bradley September 1, 2017 at 12:45 pm #


  7. ben madigan August 31, 2017 at 7:38 pm #

    meanwhile back at the EU – here are a couple of songs for the UK’s brexit (which RDE voted for) – by who other than (the) Queen!


    • ben madigan August 31, 2017 at 11:17 pm #

      is this my “au revoir”‘?
      the witching hour approacheth!
      well you all know where to find me until Jude gets his blog back up on its feet again!!!

  8. Argenta August 31, 2017 at 10:02 pm #

    As so often over the years,you have summed it up perfectly.Indeed at times,our views were so identical that those of a paranoid nature assumed we were one and the same person! Maybe I’m too cynical ,but should there be another election in the relatively near future,I’d suspect many of the usual “attack dog” posters will return along with Jude’s periscope interviews with Sinn Fein candidates.While our dissenting comments may have normally against the prevailing narrative,Jude provided us with the platform to express them and for that we have to thank him.Au revoir!

    • giordanobruno September 1, 2017 at 6:38 am #

      As usual I am in agreement. I am sure we will not be banished for ever.
      In the meantime good luck to you.

  9. fiosrach September 1, 2017 at 9:44 am #

    That’s interesting to know that it is still possible to broadcast on old blogs.

  10. Sarah McAuliffe September 2, 2017 at 2:19 am #

    I still agree with myself that RDE is barking.