An open letter to Mary Lou McDonald

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[Foreword: I hate having to do this but if you were off sick the day they did Irony in school, please stop reading now…]

Dear Mary Lou, 

You don’t know me but I know you. That is, I’ve seen you on the television and I’ve liked what I’ve seen – and heard. For a start, you’ve got a very nice little face. You’ve got nice bright clothes and you don’t talk in a Northern accent. You never were in the IRA, the group which caused all the murder and mayhem of the Troubles in Northern Ireland; and I can tell by the way you talk that you’ve been educated, probably in a nice school. Which makes me feel so sad that you’ve chosen to join Sinn Féin. I was talking to a taxi-driver the other night and he summed Sinn Féin up: “Sure they go round killing people!”. I couldn’t have put it better myself.

The thing is, I think you  are a really talented politician. You can speak in sentences and you performed really well in the Dail and when you appeared on that Late Late Show. So I think you should heed a bit of advice which is available to you today in the  Irish Times.  It’s in an article written by a good friend of mine, Noel Whelan, who knows just about everything there is to know about politics, and particularly northern politics,  and he has identified where you’re going wrong.

“Since Wednesday night, McDonald has had to go on media and use 1980s rhetoric about how the arrest of her party president was politically motivated”.

Now I grant you there are elections in a couple of weeks or so but believe me and Noel: that had nothing to do with Gerry Adams’s arrest. That’s why Noel has said you’ve been forced to use“1980s rhetoric”. He knows, like the Taoiseach, that the RUC has gone completely away. If you were to search high and low in the ranks of the PSNI, nowhere would you find anyone who had worked in the old RUC or who had inherited any of the thinking of the RUC. How do I know that? Because Noel says that sort of person was in Northern Ireland’s police force only in the 1980s. And he knows everything about politics. Especially northern politics.

Now I hope you won’t think Noel has something against you, Mary Lou. He admires you. So do I. We both like – and Noel says it in the article –  the way you cross-examined “overpaid charity executives” and challenged “incommunicative bankers”. Top marks. But you see, in standing by the president of your party and saying his arrest has anything to do with the elections, you’re making people not like you. No, seriously. That’s how these things work. You stand close enough to someone that the media don’t like, next you know they won’t like you either.

So as someone who admires you and has your interests at heart, I want to give you some advice.

Never refer to Gerry Adams without referring to the IRA later in the same sentence. Never make any mention of a man, woman or child who was killed by the British army or the RUC or the UDR during the Troubles – that’s just Sinn Féin propaganda. Make it clear that you blame the IRA for igniting and sustaining the conflict in the north from start to finish . Finally, make no reference of any kind to Gerry Adams’s part in moving the IRA from conflict to peace. Nobody will thank you for it. In fact as my friend Noel says, the fair-minded voters here in the south will stop liking you if you don’t get as far away from Gerry Adams as you possibly can. Better still – and this is my idea, not Noel’s, but I bet he’d agree with me – you should declare Gerry Adams damaged goods and become the president of Sinn Féin. Trust me: if you do,  people will like you far more.  And think what a nice life you’d have!

I hope you’ll take this advice in the spirit it’s offered, Mary Lou. You’re a nice young woman and I hate to see you mixed up with an uneducated, coarse crowd of trouble-makers. Or should I say, Troubles-makers, ha ha!

Best wishes for a better future.

Le meas

Seoirse O Damadán.

70 Responses to An open letter to Mary Lou McDonald

  1. giordanobruno May 3, 2014 at 10:53 am #

    Sound advice.

    • Jude Collins May 3, 2014 at 11:10 am #

      Well of course, Gio. Pitch defileth…

      • Virginia May 4, 2014 at 3:10 am #

        Translation?

  2. dd May 3, 2014 at 10:59 am #

    This was kinda mansplaining Jude
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mansplain
    but a grand article nonetheless 🙂

    • Jude Collins May 3, 2014 at 11:09 am #

      What a wonderful word, Dan – thanks for sharing it, as they say. Me, I think the Damadáns are the mansplainers…

  3. Thomas Russell May 3, 2014 at 11:18 am #

    Superb, Jude. Needs a wider audience. If the Ir. Times had any guts or genuine intellectual curiousity they’d run it as a counterpoint to that FF schill, Whelan.

  4. Pointis May 3, 2014 at 11:19 am #

    Enjoyed reading that letter Jude although it will be far to close to the knuckle for some without the capacity to see the longer game!

  5. michael c May 3, 2014 at 11:58 am #

    While discussing newspapers ,is it possible for the Irish News to stoop any lower in their anti SF bias.Todays edition tells us that a new mural shows Adams “gazing at the former Divis flats complex from where Jean McConville was abducted” Divis flats have not existed for decades but don’t let the truth get in the way of a good story.They now resort to the “staff reporter” byline when they pedal this shite no one wanting to be identified with it.

    • giordanobruno May 3, 2014 at 1:02 pm #

      A mural for Gerry! I am amazed at the reverence for a man who never even volunteered for the struggle.
      How those who did join the IRA must wish they too had chosen to use peaceful means like Gerry.

  6. AP May 3, 2014 at 12:37 pm #

    Lickspittles cause they really do have our best interests at heart. Conservative Ireland at its worst, attitudes have not changed much since the days of absentee landlords. Same types in run up to the centenary in 2016 will be telling us how awful and terrible for us so it was. With a timely reminder to doff your cap to your betters.

    Far be it from me to stop them from viewing Republicans naively as one-dimensional and that all are mindless drones from the hive mind collective. A strategic error. In a sense political inadequacy on their part now as well as the past has revived Republicanism time and time again so they are in essence authors of their own downfall.

    To quote W.B.Yeats: Yet I do not altogether regret what has happened. I shall be able to find out, if not I, my children will be able to find out whether we have lost our stamina or not. You have defined our position and have given us a popular following. If we have not lost our stamina then your victory will be brief, and your defeat final, and when it comes this nation may be transformed.

  7. Alhazred The Sane May 3, 2014 at 1:47 pm #

    I came across this article linked to on a facebook page, where sadly every commenter before my own took you seriously, and seemed to have missed the satire. Indeed, they obviously never got to your sign off.

    Great article, nice work.

    • Jude Collins May 3, 2014 at 2:08 pm #

      Thank you, ATS – the thought that some might not get the irony did worry me a touch. What site was it and I’ll hurry over there and reassure them?

  8. Mairéad May 3, 2014 at 2:18 pm #

    Absolute & utter rubbish… You are right about one thing! Mary Lou is smart & well dressed & educated & brilliant & amazing & all of those things.
    She is right to stand by her leader if she believes in him which she obviously does. You Sir, are an Idiot & I’m sure Mary Lou, being used to hearing this sort of dribble from other Idiots (for example those on RTE) will laugh this off. Hopefully she will be the next president of Sinn Féin but that will not be until Gerry is ready to step down. He will not be forced out… Who are you to speak on behalf of all of us with you “Noone will like you” garbage?! I think its pretty clear that Gerry Adams has plenty of support in all 32 counties on this Island. What a stupid little man you are Jude Collins!!

    • Alhazred The Sane May 3, 2014 at 5:33 pm #

      Think you’ve missed the whole point of Jude’s essay, which was satirical, and mocking Whelan at the Times.

  9. Argenta May 3, 2014 at 2:25 pm #

    I’ll admit at the very beginning of the spoof letter I was almost taken in!But then I thought how could Mary Lou not fail to know Jude Collins.He’s that nice writer and broadcaster who defends Sinn Fein at every turnaround and seems to be available quite often to chair party gatherings.Shame on Mary Lou if she doesn’t appreciate all the thankless work that he does for her party!

    • Jude Collins May 3, 2014 at 3:03 pm #

      You’re quite right – I am a nice man. And every turnaround is right – no matter where you turn, there’s another media hack with boot poised to sink in the Shinners. The trouble they go to, you’d nearly think they were maybe frightened of the ballot-box…But that’s not possible. Is it?

      • neill May 3, 2014 at 7:40 pm #

        Perhaps Mary Lou would like advice from an older man….

  10. Robert Parata May 3, 2014 at 2:36 pm #

    Great article. And i to must admit i was taken aback at first but then it didn’t take to long to get the message.

  11. Alhazred The Sane May 3, 2014 at 2:42 pm #

    Jude, do you know that Whelan’s brother is standing in the election in New Ross, for Fianna Fail?

    As for the facebook page, I’ve already sorted that out, and my correction has been liked by the same posters who had taken umbrage.

  12. RJC May 3, 2014 at 2:48 pm #

    The Republic of Ireland is starting to look like ‘Animal Farm’ played out over a hundred year period.

    • giordanobruno May 3, 2014 at 4:11 pm #

      Indeed I was thinking that when I saw Martin McGuinness banqueting with the Queen
      “The creatures outside looked from republican to monarchist, and from monarchist to republican; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”

      • Jude Collins May 3, 2014 at 4:15 pm #

        So do you disapprove of M McG’s Windsor visit, gio? While approving of GA’s arrest?

        • giordanobruno May 3, 2014 at 5:28 pm #

          Jude
          Neither really.
          I was only messing about Martin’s visit, (was I being ironic or just sarcastic? I’m never quite sure).I think it was right, and courageous even, of him to do it.
          I would not say I approve of Gerry’s arrest as I don’t know the evidence against him
          However I do approve of the police having the right to arrest him, as I am sure do you.
          Do you approve of that giant Gerry head on the Falls? Or should it be bigger?

      • joe May 18, 2014 at 11:47 pm #

        They became more English than the English themselves

  13. Martina Morris May 3, 2014 at 4:01 pm #

    Jude

    I have read ur words of advice to Mary Lou and I am annoyed really, I am.
    I am 46yrs of age i have seen over the yrs bombings and murders in the North of Ireland via broadcast. As i am from the south i have absolutely no understanding or knowledge of the life that either Protestants or Catholics have had to live. How can we, that includes U Jude , know what it was like as a small child to grow up in the North ? I mean to witness ur mother,brother sister aunt uncle , father been subject to abuse and much worse all because u were born into the wrong religion or side of a town ??? Gerry Adams is a product of where he grew up, as r many others. He is not without hes demons but then again who is ??? Really this man was involved in the peace process he has embraced change and has expressed and shown over the years a willingness to evolve and move with the times which is PEACE for all those people who have suffered in the North .
    Mary Lou McDonald has witnessed this evolution and appreciates that SInn Fein are a party that she wants to b a part of . I thank God for Mary Lou i do think she is a natural Politician and quite a good speaker and a great woman to get her point across 🙂 I do c that one day she will be Sinn Feins president but that time isnt just yet.
    I know that u are a wise man Jude being older then myself u have a vaster knowledge of life then myself but please don’t patronize a women as great as Mary Lou , she has made her choice of her political party something that I am sure she thought long and hard about before she reached her final decision.
    So embrace her decision as she has embraced Gerry Adams willingness to embrace change .
    regards
    Martina Morris

    • Jude Collins May 3, 2014 at 4:14 pm #

      Martina – check my newly-installed foreword. And maybe translate ‘Seoirse Damadán’…It may give you a new slant on what I’ve written…

  14. Pointis May 3, 2014 at 4:31 pm #

    Hi Jude,

    As a past educator you are probably aware of that age old advice to students: read the whole question before attempting to answer. I am afraid a few students have gone of half cocked!

    • Jude Collins May 3, 2014 at 4:35 pm #

      Oh well. If they read my newly-installed foreword, they’ll have advanced another tiny step on the path to wisdom…

  15. RJC May 3, 2014 at 5:55 pm #

    I’ve just read that Noel Whelan piece. Jesus wept.

    It brought to mind this piece from last week mind you

    http://www.judecollins.com/2014/04/irish-media-blast-counter-blast/

    Worth a read for the slow learners among us.

  16. David G May 3, 2014 at 6:04 pm #

    I am sorry Jude I went to an all boy school and we didn’t do anything like cooking or sewing as home economics was not offered as a subject,therefore you will have to forgive me if I don’t understand ironry.

    • Jude Collins May 3, 2014 at 8:26 pm #

      That’s punny – I went to one too…

  17. Me May 3, 2014 at 6:34 pm #

    I stopped reading at the fifth sentence in. You never were in the IRA, the group which caused all the murder and mayhem of the Troubles in Northern Ireland…
    The IRA caused it all?

    • Jude Collins May 3, 2014 at 8:25 pm #

      somaolduin – read my foreword.

  18. ASR May 3, 2014 at 7:32 pm #

    Another great article Jude. Thankfully people like yourself call this for what it is, and hopefully will continue to do so. With Sinn Fein looking like they might have 4 MEP’s from the upcoming election, not to mention the locals, the dark forces have went for the nuclear option and arrested GA. As in times gone past with other elections the same ploy has been used regarding Sinn Fein. Now it’s getting serious as opinion polls continue to show Sinn Fein flying high to the point where they now have parties and establishment, in both jurisdictions worried about the impact that this will have. I certainly would not rule out a charge of some description on GA as they seek to stifle/destroy any progress being made. It was enough maybe in the past to just arrest a few Sinn Fein representatives on a charge of membership of the IRA as elections would draw close, and then never to be heard of again. Not the case anymore and they know that. So GA gets arrested, don’t rule anything out. Keep calling it as it is Jude. BTW Jude, would love to see the day when Niall Collins, Whelan et al would be happy to debate with someone like yourself issues regarding the North and what exactly it has been like growing up and living here, and what everyone has had to deal with, rather than listening to their bullshit soundbites. Sure wouldn’t it be great to hear them enlighten us with their in depth knowledge of the still occupied 6 counties. Keep up the good work.

  19. Flegazaur May 3, 2014 at 8:09 pm #

    I’ve been reading various news sources over the last few days and it’s interesting to note how officialdom has decided that ‘Jean Mc’Conville was murdered by the IRA because they mistakenly believed she was an informer’.

    For years officialdom informed their readers and viewers that ‘Jean Mc’Conville was murdered by the IRA for going to the aid of an injured British solder’.

    It is so Orwellian when they change the facts after decades with no explanation for their readers and viewers.

    Where did the ‘murdered for going to aid of British soldier’ myth come from in the first place?

    • pretzellogic May 3, 2014 at 11:36 pm #

      Flegazaur

      Maybe this may clear up your little mystery. The myth you speak of sprang up from the neighbours of Mrs McConville, and from her children. They told all the journalists who descended on the scene at the time to ask about the sudden disappearance of a mother of ten, that she had placed a pillow under the head of an injured British soldier some time before and had been taken from her bath, forced at gunpoint from her children and then dragged out of her home by the IRA. But it soon became apparent many years later after the children had all left care, when the IRA set the record straight and pointed out that Mrs McConville had actually been kidnapped, executed, buried and disappeared for being a tout/informer.

      • Flegazaur May 4, 2014 at 1:05 pm #

        I first read about the allegation of Adams’ involvement a decade ago in Ed Moloney’s Secret History of IRA and learned of the accusation that Jean McConville was an informer and that is why the IRA murdered her in the same book at the same time.

        Yet only two months ago the Belfast Telegraph was stating as fact that McConville was murdered because she aided an injured British Soldier. Maybe the paper’s editor had not read Maloney’s books until the last month or so because now it is stated as fact that she was murdered because she was informer.

        How come the media didn’t change the story a decade ago is the point i was making . weird

        • pretzellogic May 4, 2014 at 2:58 pm #

          Flegazaur,
          I’m unaware of the BT stating as fact that Mrs McConville was murdered for whatever reason the IRA used to justify her murder. The original claim that she aided an injured soldier began in the days and weeks following her abduction as I’ve already said.

      • joe May 18, 2014 at 11:53 pm #

        The murder of a widow with 10 children proved, if proof was needed, that the IRA would murder anyone to strike fear into those they said they were there to protect. Nothing more, nothing less. All the stories are just that. Everyone about certainly feared the Provos after they were prepared to kidnap, torture, murder, dispose of on a beach a widow, under the guise of her being a tout. They were brave men and women in Belfast in the 70’s.

  20. michael c May 3, 2014 at 8:25 pm #

    Even if the media onslaught succeeds in damaging SF in the south,it will only have a temporary effect.People will see eventually what was going on and will not be fooled a second time.

  21. Iolar May 3, 2014 at 8:30 pm #

    Sinne laochra fáil…

  22. Angela Conway May 3, 2014 at 11:31 pm #

    What a self righteous, patronising, mysoginist you are. How dare you judge nationalists/republicans abandoned in the 6 counties. Never standing up for our mistreatment, you should hold your head in shame.

  23. michael c May 3, 2014 at 11:40 pm #

    Why are you starting to sing “the soldiers song” Are you attending some function where strong drink has been consumed?

    • Iolar May 4, 2014 at 1:43 pm #

      There is a significant difference in Sinne Loachra Fáil and Sinne Fianna Fáil.

      • Iolar May 4, 2014 at 1:55 pm #

        My apologies, slight problem with my diphthongs this morning, They cannot touch you for it. It is Laochra Fáil.

  24. Anthony May 4, 2014 at 1:36 am #

    What a fiasco this whole situation is turning out to be, talk about selective/political policing or a hierarchy of victims.

    Who is Theresa Villiers to say its not in the public interest to hold an inquest into the Ballymurphy massacre or how about an investigation into the Pat Finucane murder and maybe the British State could share their files on the Dublin/Monaghan bombings or did the RUC/PSNI even bother to watch the Panorama program about the MRF, were former British soldiers admit on tape to killing unarmed civilians.

    Even if the RUC/PSNI charge GA with some trumped up charges, the testimony of two dead bitter Republicans would not be enough to secure a conviction, taped interviews for a college project with no police in attendance will not stand up to scrutiny from defence laywers in court, so this is nothing more than political policing and an attempt to stem the rise of SF, but will only galvanize support for Sinn Féin.

    • giordanobruno May 4, 2014 at 10:42 am #

      Anthony
      What about Ivor Bell’s testimony? We don’t know what he has said.
      And the McConville family may now be willing to testify, further spilling the can of worms.

      • Anthony May 4, 2014 at 11:55 am #

        Gio
        We can only speculate on both what Ivor Bell may have said and what the McConville family may be willing to testify.

        Either way the McConville family are the victims and deserve justice and so do all the other victims but what we are seeing now is selective justice.

  25. virginia May 4, 2014 at 4:22 am #

    Mary Lou, also please go back to using the insurmountable, yet lovely Irish version of your name you abandoned a while back. It made you so much more accessible to the crowds of English speaking voters.

    • Kieran McCarthy May 4, 2014 at 10:26 am #

      Whelan, writing from his Fianna Fail Cumann meeting at the Irish Times.

      Have the FF’ers organised in the north yet, as they have threatened? That would surely be worse than bringing back the RUC.

      well done Jude – a class piece as usual. I just don’t get it how some fail to see the satire in it!

  26. Finbar Markey May 4, 2014 at 8:20 am #

    I just have to look at the guy you are standing with in your pic (Enda Kenny) to understand your bedfellows Mr Collins. Such childish, acidic commentary from you, or someone you claim “knows everything” about Northern Irish politics (what a ridiculous statement) I am far from being a SF supporter but as a trained critical thinker holding numerous degrees including a social science PHD, this diatribe is plainly FG propaganda. I Do hope Mr Kenny gives you the pat on the head you so desperately crave… Finbar

    • Niall O'Donnell May 4, 2014 at 3:57 pm #

      Finbar – I’m guessing your numerous degrees didn’t have any classes on satire or irony. Maybe ‘tongue in cheek’ is something you could look up? If this is too much trouble, try reading the forward to the article or some of the previous comments.

      Jude – thanks for a great article!

  27. michael c May 4, 2014 at 10:06 am #

    When did Mary lou abandon her name? I think you are rambling Virginia and the 4.22 am timing may have something to do with it.

  28. Am Ghobsmacht May 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm #

    Anthony

    “Even if the RUC/PSNI charge GA with some trumped up charges, the testimony of two dead bitter Republicans would not be enough to secure a conviction, taped interviews for a college project with no police in attendance will not stand up to scrutiny from defence laywers in court, so this is nothing more than political policing and an attempt to stem the rise of SF, but will only galvanize support for Sinn Féin.”

    Surely, of all the groups on the planet, the PSNIRA (if you’re a loyalist delusional) or PSNIRUC (if you’re a nationalist delusional) would know this more than any other group?

    Not only that, if/when things turn ugly, the first ones to feel the wrath will be the PSNI/IRA/SS/RUC (delete as applicable).

    It’ll be their officers lowered into the cold ground.

    Yes, this arrest will only serve to rally the troops and swing voters.

    The more squealing and shrieking about political policing that can be created will be enough to move fence-sitters into the SF camp.

    I know this.

    You know this.

    The wee gypsy-man on Royal Avenue with the funny violin thingy probably knows this.

    Which begs the question: “why do the police not know this?”

    And if they do, then surely it’s something else?

    It is either something bigger, something that quite obviously allows for the Shinner fall out and its subsequent gains in the elections or it is something not so dark.

    Someone over on slugger mentioned that it might be a shot across the bows for SF regarding their enthusiasm for inquiries for past vile acts of state forces.

    If so, there is definitely a silver lining in it for them.

    Gerry will be released soon.

    There will then be MOPEry, gatherings, demonstrations and electoral drives that would impress even Goebbels.

    SF vote increases.

    If it is political policing then it’s certainly not designed to damage SF for the forthcoming elections.

    • Flegazaur May 4, 2014 at 4:53 pm #

      Am Ghobsmacht

      ”There will then be MOPEry, gatherings, demonstrations and electoral drives that would impress even Goebbels.”

      I’m aware you are trying to be funny with the Nazi reference. I’m also aware you are a moderate Unionist based on previous posts on Jude’s blog.

      But at that the risk of you accusing me of’ mopery’ would you unionists whether Small U or big U or whatever ever, get over yourselfs and stop antagonising people with your trivialisation of the Nazis and gross exaggeration of Sinn Fein and or the IRA’s morally questionable behaviour past or present.

      And yes I do think President McAleese was full of it with her Nazi indoctrination analogy some years ago.

      • Am Ghobsmacht May 4, 2014 at 8:17 pm #

        Goebbels is famous for his propaganda.

        If this is inappropriate then please use someone else: Karl Rove or whomever, I don’t know of many famous spin propagandists (does Rove even count).

        I think you’re reading into my posts too much.

        To compare someone/something to the Nazis is generally an admission of defeat in my view so I seldom go down that path.

        I used Goebbels as he is (in)famous.
        Nothing more, nothing less.
        There may be other equally famous propagandists out there, feel free to name them.

  29. AP May 4, 2014 at 12:08 pm #

    Mark Carruthers on Sunday Politics gave a brilliant response to wee Jeffery on the lines of it is ok for you to criticise the police but not Gerry Kelly.

  30. paddykool May 4, 2014 at 12:09 pm #

    Jeez Jude!!!! There really are a lot of people in Ireland who do not get satire or irony….Mad magazine,, Spitting Image, Monty Python, Private Eye and all the rest must have passed them by…?????

    • giordanobruno May 4, 2014 at 12:44 pm #

      paddy
      Yes this piece of biting satire has backfired somewhat on Jude. He might be getting a call from Connolly House
      “Keep it simple Jude. Aren’t Unionists awful, isn’t the queen funny, the media are all against us, that sort of thing”

  31. RJC May 4, 2014 at 12:10 pm #

    I guess we find out by 8pm whether or not the PSNI charge him or release him. If he is to be charged, the subsequent trial will open a whole supermarket full of cans of worms.

    With regard Jean McConville’s children – I wonder to what extent they are in a position to give evidence against GA himself? Other than the ‘masked men came into our house and dragged our mother away when we were small children’ aspect, I don’t know what they have learned in the intervening 42 years that can directly link GA to the crime. If they are to be called as witnesses, then I can’t imagine that cross examination by some ball busting barrister would be much fun for them. Much less if the trial did not result in a conviction.

    Jonathan Freedland’s piece in yesterday’s Guardian raises some interesting questions

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/02/gerry-adams-jean-mcconville-south-africa-painful-compromise

    • Am Ghobsmacht May 4, 2014 at 12:22 pm #

      RJC

      Yup, it’ll open a can of worms.

      Any political capital to be seized will be lost by repugnant and premature unionist gloating.

      And unless Gerry Adams admits his involvement, SF will benefit from the exposure, TV time and their PR dept will do a fine job of capitalising on it.

      It if it even slightly smells of a British plot then they’ll do well.

      Even IF (highly unlikely) he is found guilty then the wise thing for the propaganda machine to do will be to besmirch her name as a tout or at the very least write her off as ‘collateral’ in ‘the war’.

      It’s already started:
      http://sluggerotoole.com/2014/05/03/compulsory-reading-susan-mckay-on-jean-mcconvilles-life-and-death/#comments

  32. paddykool May 4, 2014 at 12:47 pm #

    I’m offside at the moment, but I think l said earlier that it’ s all about timing… Bobby Sand’s death created such a furore 30 odd years ago that the Republican movement was able to build quickly…much as the Blood y Sunday deaths created the easy recruitment …This publicity good or bad creates an even higher profile to Gerry Adams….

  33. colm May 4, 2014 at 1:39 pm #

    What an absolute load of rubbish ,you cannot deny your roots. This is typical of modern day politicians adapt the policies to pander to Sun readers or whatever the Irish equivalent is.

    A someone who has lived and lived through the troubles , I would say most don’t know the complexities of many of the events and make judgements without the knowledge.

    One think I do agree with time for Adams to move over

  34. RJC May 4, 2014 at 2:42 pm #

    Interesting that this is all playing out against the imminent departure of Matt Baggot. Does this talk of SF possibly withdrawing their support for the PSNI set the stage for a full scale reimagining of the police service here? A return to the 50/50 quotas? A nice taigy chief constable? The arrest of GA may provide SF with the opportunity to root out the ‘dark elements’ remaining within the PSNIRUC (irony there, people).

    There was that Justice Treacy thing last week, where he fair slammed the PSNI for they way the handled the flag protests. Not to mention the ongoing Twaddle fiasco. And oh look! ‘Marching Season’ is nearly upon us. I cant help but feel this is going to get worse before it gets better…

  35. Dylan May 6, 2014 at 3:47 am #

    Dear Jude,

    Your open letter to Mary Lou is a mish mash of uneducated, nonsense, stereotypical drivel, from someone who has clearly been living in blissful ignorance of the plight of catholics and indeed republicans of all creeds in Northern Ireland over the past number of decades.

    Firstly, to correct you, Sinn Fein do not, nor have they ever “gone around killing people”. At least not since the time of Michael Collins, who is now the hero of the two somewhat confused major political parties in this State of ours. Michael, let it not be forgotten was not averse to instructing children to shoot men in the back on their way out of mass in full view of their families. But of course, history has a way of glamorizing, and editing out the harsh and vile details of war when it suits those who seek to benefit from such legends. The big man would be spinning in his grave at the treachery of Fianna Fail, Fine Gael and Labour selling out our Sovereignty to save the necks of foreign bankers and investors.

    Secondly you state: “Never make any mention of a man, woman or child who was killed by the British army or the RUC or the UDR during the Troubles – that’s just Sinn Féin propaganda.” I can assure you that there have been hundreds killed by the British Army, the RUC and the UDR during the Troubles, and that added to this all of the above have colluded with Loyalist Paramilitary Death Squads in the killing of countless innocent victims, whose only crime was to be a Catholic or live in a Nationalist area. Shame on you to deny the families of these victims any recognition. You are clearly completely ignorant of reality and I strongly suggest you educate yourself on the history and politics of Northern Ireland and the conflict before offering any further advice. Let’s look at just a small number of the cases you refer to as propaganda which have clearly and unambiguously been proven to have been killings of civilians by the British Army, RUC , UDR and some instances of collusion on these groups parts with Loyalist Death Squads just to open your very small, and closed mind:

    1. Ballymurphy massacre: British Paratroop Regiment open fire on civilians killing 11. Their
    crime was participating in a peaceful march seeking equal voting rights with protestants.

    2 Bloody Sunday: Even you must have heard of this one. British Paratroopers open fire on
    a peaceful march killing 14 innocent civilians without provocation.

    3. Dublin and Monaghan bombings: 33 civilians killed, over 300 wounded. UVF claimed
    responsibility in 1993. However an Irish Government report clearly states that there was
    British military collusion involved in the attacks.

    4. The Springhill Massacre took place on 9 July 1972 in the Springhill estate in Belfast,
    Northern Ireland. Five people were shot dead by British Army snipers who had taken up
    position at a timber yard.

    Army snipers took up sniping positions positions in Corry’s timber yard and reinforced
    them with sandbags. Two cars pulled into Springhill and the snipers fired two shots at
    them. One of the cars fled while the other drove a short distance and stopped, the
    occupants got out and the snipers opened fire again, One of the occupants was shot in
    the back of the head and was seriously wounded. Another resident rushed to help the
    injured man but was immediately shot in the arm.

    The man’s brother and his friend ran to the downed occupant but both were shot by the
    snipers. At some point during this time a 13-year-old girl was fatally shot by the snipers.
    The parish priest and a passer-by (the priest was waving a white cloth) rushed to her but
    a sniper killed both with a single bullet that passed through both their heads. All the
    victims were unarmed.

    5. Aiden McEnespie: Shot dead in Aughnacloy by a British soldier while passing through a
    checkpoint travelling to a Gaelic match.

    6. Anthony McDowell: A 13 year ol boy shot dead in Belfast by the Parachute Regiment.

    7. Bernard Fox: A 16 year old boy shot dead in Belfast by the British Light Infantry
    Regiment.

    8. Brian Stewart: A 13 year old boy shot dead by the Kings Own Scottish Borders
    Regiment.

    9. Carol Anne Kelly: A 12 year old girl. Shot dead by a plastic bullet fired by the Royal
    Fusiliers Regiment.

    10. Pat Finucane, Rosemary Nelson, Robert Hamill and Billy Wright: Note that Billy Wright
    was a Loyalist Paramiltary for your guidance. In the independent investigation
    conducted into the possibility of RUC and British military collusion in these killings,
    carried out by Canadian Judge Cory, on behalf of the House of Commons, he
    concluded:

    “Some of the acts summarized above are, in and of themselves, capable of constituting
    acts of collusion. Further, the documents and statements I have referred to in this
    review have a cumulative effect. Considered together, they clearly indicate to me that
    there is strong evidence that collusive acts were committed by the Army (FRU), the
    RUC SB and the Security Service. I am satisfied that there is a need for a public
    inquiry.”

    11. A British Government document entitled “Subversion of the UDR” outlines numerous
    cases of UDR involvement in the murders of Catholics and Nationalists in Northern
    Ireland.

    In short the reality is that these murders are far from propaganda. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself in your ignorance and uneducated stance on this matter. The fact of the matter is that there are over 400 civilians killed at the hands of the British Army, UDR and RUC and more if we consider the collusion with Loyalist Death Squads. You owe the families of these victims a sincere apology. Shame on you.

    You go on to refer to “80’s style rhetoric”. The only 80’s style rhetoric I heard this week came from Fine Gael, Labour and Fianna Fail cronies all grasping at straws in a desperate attempt to damage Sinn Feins rapid growth in the polls. The fact of the matter is that it terrifies these parties knowing that Sinn Fein is a modern progressive party. A party that has left violence in the past and has paved the way to peace. A party which is the only genuine option on the left opposing these right wing, conservative, pro austerity agenda parties that we have now had in successive governments. This debacle involving the arrest of Gerry Adams resulted in no charges being made against him and him being released. The dogs in the street can see that it was a stunt designed to damage Sinn Feins popularity, I suggest that it is an attempt that will backfire badly come the 23rd of May when the voters will do their talking at the ballot box.

    My advice to you, and indeed “your friend” in the Irish Times, is to do as Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein have done. Stop living in the past. If we always look back we can never move forward. Sinn Fein want to bring a brighter future to the people of Ireland, and the polls suggest that the people of Ireland have woken up to the brighter alternative. Maybe you should do some soul searching, educate yourself on the facts before making unsubstantiated sweeping, ignorant statements, and wake up to the brighter future Sinn Fein can offer.

    Yours Faithfully,

    Dylan.

    • Am Ghobsmacht May 6, 2014 at 10:11 am #

      Dylan

      Did you read the disclaimer at the beginning?

      ” [Foreword: I hate having to do this but if you were off sick the day they did Irony in school, please stop reading now…]”

      Translated it means “I am writing a mock letter with mock point of view to illustrate how ridiculous and unfair I view the the attitude towards SF and Mary Lou Mac is at the hands of the media. Set sarcasm to stun”.

      He was taking the Michael.

      It was a jape with a serious point.

      Jeez….

      (Dr C, if I’ve mistranslated your foreword please say so)