Old Crooked Mouth Gregory Campbell is on the radio rattling on about the” Bloody Sunday” murders of 1972, as the rain hoses down. You ‘d really wonder that people cannot see the transparency of his weekly pre-election rants.Last week it was the language issue… He appears now to be against the families pursuing legal action in this murder case . He is rattling on about insufficient financial resources . I wonder if the cases had not involved the British Army and its murderous assault on the Civil Rights march, would he still take that point of view.I wonder would he agree to simply forget about any murder because, suddenly the resources weren’t available. What does he say about the killings at Kingsmill? Should those families not have money spent on their enquiry ?
Then again , it was “his” army involved and as far as he was concerned , they were never going to do any wrong as long as they were striking out at “perceived” nationalists.The thing is , though, they were acting as the armed police of the state that’s supposed to be wielding its force fairly for all its citizens.You can’t just murder your citizens whether or not you like them.If it happened in a Muslim community in Bradford there would be uproar and there would be a murder inquiry with people serving sentences for murder or manslaughter.
Mere weeks after Sinn Fein and one of its old associates in the republican movement {of pre-Good Friday Agreement fame}, were asked to wrestle with the morality or immorality of one of its member’s errant sex -life , suddenly , yesterday a British Army man is convicted of sex crimes stretching back many years. You’d imagine that the release of this kind of tit- for- tat information on a weekly drip-feed was choreographed from sources within the media .After all we only read and hear the “news stories” that are most prominent. As far as programme -makers are concerned , these are only come-day -go-day stories anyway….. to keep the chattering classes chattering …..right?
These kinds of revelations are no real surprise though ,but can be used as weapons of propaganda by opposing politicians as bitching sticks.If you care to look a little more closely into any organisation there are surprises to find.Apparently there are a significant number of soldiers on the sex- offenders register ,still serving in the British Army. Last year Channel 4 News was told by the Ministry of Defence that there were twenty soldiers who were on the sex offenders register and who are still serving and picking up their wages in the army. Ten of them had been convicted of a sexual offences in a civilian court . Six of them were court martialed and four had a police caution on their record.
Apparently there are also an unknown number of soldiers still serving and drawing their wages who were convicted of sexual offences and were not put on the sexual offences register.
If your black sense of humour stretches to laughing out loud at Orwellian double-speak and pants-off hypocrisy, the Ministry of Defence acknowledged that although these are serious crimes , in “exceptional circumstances”, a commanding officer can retain the soldier. These include whether the soldier is still “worthwhile” to the army; whether his retention would “impact” on the army’s “reputation”; how long he has served and “ultimately, the interests of the service”.
Okay, let’s all take a deep breath.That’s basically saying that within our tight little family , we are beyond the law and we most definitely do things differently.
Apparently , right across the board in the army, there are at least three or four crimes every day. Every day most of these crimes are sexual assaults, rapes and assaults against the person.The Ministry of Defence doesn’t like to think about that kind of thing , though.The catch-all phrase would be ‘You know what soldiers are like’. It’s used as a sort of universal excuse…a kind of “What else do people expect?”
Well what else do we all expect?
Rudyard Kipling lived in different times of course.Things are different during conflict situations too. Men are fallible creatures anyway and blow with the winds of war.So was it a “war” in Ireland. People are ambivalent about that. I suppose if you were of a particular mindset , in a particular area, surrounded only by like-minded thinkers, you might consider yourself a “soldier” at war. It’s obvious a lot of republicans and loyalists took on the trappings and weaponry of an army.Then again, so did Al Capone and Elliot Ness and his Untouchables…
People like Mr Crooked Mouth CamBéal certainly don’t believe so . In that respect the Bloody Sunday British troops were not at war then, They were simply misbehaving….
“We aren’t no thin red ‘eroes, nor we aren’t no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An’ if sometimes our conduck isn’t all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don’t grow into plaster saints;
While it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Tommy, fall be’ind”,
But it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind,
There’s trouble in the wind, my boys, there’s trouble in the wind,
O it’s “Please to walk in front, sir”, when there’s trouble in the wind.”
Rudyard Kipling
Crooked Mouth CamBéal is a wrecker not a builder and is only in the assembly to thwart anything to do with SinnFein or
Irishness in general therefore everything he says comes from that insatiable well of bigotry he has inside him.
Harry, why do the deaths of the people at Bloody Sunday, and other incidents involving the British Army deserve, a more expansive and expensive inquiry than those murders perpetuated by Sinn Fein/IRA? We are advised to forget the past and move on, yet there are hundreds of unsolved murders, some committed by current members of Sinn Fein. Are they not as just deserving a proper inquiry as others, or in your view, are some more deserving than others?
Sweet William – I was under the impression that you saw the British army as upholders of law and order – i.e., our paid protectors – and the IRA as terrorists. Would that not be grounds for expansive and expensive (largely because the British government consistently refused to cough up documents relating to the event) Bloody Sunday investigation?
That is correct Jude, but those terrorists are now part of our government, you can’t have it both ways. Well, it’s your blog as you keep telling me, so I suppose you can, blog apartheid really
Well, firstly it’s not blog apartheid since it gives you a platform for your views, is it? And you’ve now shifted your ground from equivalence between the British army and ‘terrorists’ to the notion of ‘terrorists’ in government. Have you studied nothing at all about the British Empire? Even in Africa? Yesterday’s unspeakable terrorist is today’s luncheon guest at Buck House.
That’s not my point Jude, and you know it. I was stating the fact that you and others are seeking crimes committed in the 70s re-investigated, but are being discriminatory in relation to what should be investigated.
I don’t think that’s true either, sweet William. I don’t remember any statement by a leading republican saying they didn’t want EVERYTHING investigated. You might argue they say that, knowing the British government will never agree to open the files, and I think you might be right. Why is it that the British government keeps withholding information on killings? It doesn’t take an Einstein to figure that one.
Jude you might not like it but William has a very reasonable point justice for all or justice for nobody
If I knew what you were talking about, neill, I’d probably answer you. Probably. No promises…
The jist of Jude’s article seems to be that Gregory Campbell wants justice for some but not others. he is criticising Campbell for taking this stance. Therefore my reading of the article is that Jude’s opinion is the complete obverse of wanting justice for some and not justice for all.
I think you mean Harry, Antonio…
Antonio, I’m quoting you here…:
“The jist of Jude’s article seems to be that Gregory Campbell wants justice for some but not others. he is criticising Campbell for taking this stance.
{As Jude has said , these are not his thoughts.}
“Therefore my reading of the article is that Jude’s opinion is the complete obverse of wanting justice for some and not justice for all.”
So you are saying that your understanding is that Jude [or the author,…ie moi!} has the opposite viewpoint and doesn’t want justice for all, whereas Gregory does?
Gregory wants justice for all …I don’t.
Am I getting your meaning right here? Is that what you are saying?
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.Antonio that is a very confusing way to state a point of view….but now that it’s ironed out into a straight line, let’s proceed….
I don’t know where you got that idea from reading the piece.You have to study words with some care, just as you have to study the author’s name .
The question …and I stress these are always , questions , sometimes even….. only opinions… gained from what these public reps say or do over the years….because none of us really knows what is actually rattling around the mind of any politician, is why someone like Gregory Campbell cannot simply see that a wrong has been done and accept it.
I. for example , know that wrongs have been done on all sides and I have no problem saying that all these murders were horrendous and they should all be either dealt with ad finitum until everyone is satisfied or dead or they should all be forgiven together as a piece. I’m happy with either scenario. Whatever is agreed.
The article is not simply about Gregory Campbell and his pre-election bandwagon of old saws and insults, though
….. . It is questioning hypocrisy from whatever side it comes, should it be from Gregory , a Sinn Feiner or the British or Irish Establishments.. .You’ll not find me wanting in pointing out the places to laugh.I think Jude has a similar view, but he might disagree..The thing is , even when there is real wrong to be seen, Gregory never sees it, or never seems to understand a differing viewpoint…..or simply just wants to please the people who elect him, no matter the truth or untruth..Over the past few months , the Government has pulled back on several of these high profile cases. There’s the Finucane one for example .There’s the Kingsmill one too ,I believe. That’s just off the top of my head.The Bloody Sunday one is a bit like the My Lai massacre in Vietnam though, wher the government’s troops got out of hand.That will always be “special”.That will always be a step too far for any government, anywhere.
We have certainly got our wires crossed.
My intent was to say that Gregory wants selective justice. He wants Justice for the victims of IRA murders.
Whereas the author of this article ( which turns out be you not Jude) is more interested in justice for all people murdered during the troubles no matter who the perpetrators were.
That`s just it Neill there never has been justice for the relatives of the hundreds killed by the British state forces, whether in or out of `official` uniform. My advice. if we want our children to grow up in peace? Forget ALL the killings, all the injustices, because if we keep on picking at it, the wound will never heal. Bradley Eames could have gone some way to settling this of course, but some people just can`t let go.
Ok Anotherjude, you are putting it out there, who are these hundreds killed by the Security Forces, if you going to fabricate then you would need to veil it slightly better. Contact your shinner friends they are good at telling porkies.
These statistics are available in many open source documents, and are taken from Lost Lives, covering the years 1966 – 2006, inclusive, and are for a total of 3720 deaths.
Republicans – 2152, 57.8 %
Loyalists – 1112, 29.9 %
Security Forces – 367, 9.9%
Unknown Perpetrators – 89, 2.4%
Breaking down the Security Forces figures, of the 367 deaths that were attributable to them, 162 were innocent Catholics and 23 innocent Protestants. Simply put, the Security Forces were responsible for the deaths of 185 innocent people out of a total of 3720, less than 5% of the overall figures. Come back to me with your version of events, but these are the facts; I’m sure you will attempt to massage the figures in some way with the usual allegations.
Well …William , I am of the opinion that every murder should have an answer whether or not we collectively like that answer or not. It is usually what a parent or a father or mother require. It doesn’t particularly matter to me what kind of clothing or uniform the murderer wears and i’d imagine that holds for the families of any victim…
What we all do when we get the answers can be debated too.Some people simply want to know exactly who was responsible for their loved one’s death.. Some want simple revenge. Some want financial retribution. Some want to make political hay.They all have different reasons but we either say that was then ….That was all in the past… .Or we dig in and examine each case. dispassionately..As Jude pointed out, and I thought I alluded to it in my article. The Army is supposedly the protectorate of all the citizens and actually is in their employ ,so they are in an unique…if invidious position.
As for murders committed by members of Sinn Fein. Well if you know anything about them , maybe you can refresh the readers’ minds . I am not a member of any of these groups so i only know what I read. . Which murders have been carried out by which current members of Sinn Fein? Which are unsolved ? if you know the details , why are they unsolved? I’m an open-minded kind of guy and I would like to know if only out of curiosity. That said , knowing the details will not change any of the past. We are not there now, thankfully.
I would say the names of soldiers who fired the shots on Bloody Sunday are known within certain circles but I have no real idea who they are either.. I’m not taking sides here William .i’m pointing out some strange , crooked absurdities.I’m not about to defend the indefensible either.Anyone with a loaded gun in their hands knows that it is not for writing a letter with …That goes for anyone in the past conflict…..or was that a “war”.? I suppose that depends on which word suits your agenda …
Believe it or not Paddy, I agree with quite a lot of what you have stated. The problem is there is now a perception that there is a hierarchy of victims. Try explaining that to a family, their religious persuasion is immaterial, that the murder of their loved one will not be properly investigated because the deaths attributed to the Security Forces will involve more rigorous investigations. I understand the families of the victims on Bloody Sunday are unhappy with what has recently been stated, but why are their deaths more important than others.
Sweet William – you were going all right until you got to the bit ‘the deaths attributed to the Security Forces [note caps] will involve more rigorous investigations’. You are having a laugh, William. Say you are.
Their deaths are not more important.All the deaths are important ,but the onus is always on the “State” to be the ultimate benevolent protector of all the citizens under its umbrella …regardless..The state’s troops have to be seen to be totally impartial and never to take a disputed side. They weren’t attacking an army of subversives to all intents..They fired on and killed ordinary citizens right there on the street in front of everyone.They could have used other methods of crowd control if they had wanted to disperse the people .Killing them as targets was never going to be the right thing..Killing one may have been a mistake …but when you kill a dozen or so that’s no slip of the hand .That’s murder .Plain and simple. No question.
This wasn’t some game of soldiers played with paintball guns.The Government of the land then have to take responsibility for that “mistake”.Somehow that can’t be equated with a killing by a group operating outside the law, like the IRA or the UVF..
.That is just the way democracy is supposed to work,In the end ,.these soldiers were ultimately in the employ of the people they shot down. These people were part of the “State” they were supposed to protect.
The British Army was suppose to neutral and a peace force through the Troubles William, while in reality they were anything but. They opened fire on civil rights protestors who didn’t have any weapons and soldiers were found to have lied when questioned. This is just one incident on top of a mountain of incidents of shootings and acts of collusion with Loyalist murder squads. You don’t think that’s worth investigating? or maybe you are just as afraid of the facts coming to light as the British Government is? But sooner or later William, the truth always comes out and as I’m sure you know full well: the Truth hurts.
(And no William, the civil rights protestors were not the IRA before you say “But what about the IRA…..”)
Just wondering, why does Harry not answer his own questions?
And there’s me thinking,William, that a man’s writing style was akin to his fingerprint. I was told my style was something like H.P Lovecraft, but I’m inclined to think it’s more like Harry…Then again , that’s open to debate too…..
William
Just think of Harry as the political wing and paddykool the military wing 🙂
Or maybe vice-versa, Gio…Superman and Clark Kent?….Spider-man and Peter Parker?
William, I am shocked to see you are leaving yourself wide open to ridicule. Surely you, of all people, should know that the ‘soldiers of the queen’ are sworn to uphold the interests of all the people and from your comment that would mean that the Army of the Republic and the British ‘terrorist’ Army were on an equal footing. In believing that William you seem to have broadened your horizons. Congratulations and welcome aboard.
Very good James, par for the course, take whatever meaning you wish from a statement. I don’t think you can equate a soldier in uniform with a murderous coward creeping up on and shooting his neighbour in the back. I’m sure you will twist this statement as well; republicans, loyalists, exactly the same in my book, with a warped sense of reality that academia have termed political violence. The army of the republic, if that’s how you term the provos, then we really are in trouble.
Those sas ‘soldiers’ in Gibraltar were in their civvies too. I hope you condemned this cowardice william?
The pathetic attempts by William and other’moderates’ within unionism to distance themselves from violent loyalism when they are attacking republicanism should be challenged.
If I was a true blue loyalist of Ulster when the conflict initiated I would’ve urgently lent my support to whoever was going to defend me from the imminent arrival of the IRA and the free state army that were on the border. After all that’s what Paisley and all claimed.
With possible regret I would’ve possibly assisted whatever group that was on my side that was aiming to defeat the IRA, be that be the UDA,UDR or RUC. In fact I would have urged my fellow country people to join some of these ‘legal’ groups first for obvious reasons ie access to weapons,logistics etc. If any unionist politician didn’t believe violent loyalists were blatantly using these legal groups then they are simply lying.
As a fearful unionist I would’ve sought alliances with any other organisation committed to defeating republicanism eg British army,mi5 etc. I would have urged any of the above groups to do whatever it takes(hint hint) to defeat the IRA. Just like I would have tolerated bomber Harris terrorising German citizens during ww2 in an overall attempt to defeat the Germans , I would have tolerated terror to befall on the nationalists community where my enemy came from. It’s just logical, isn’t it? Whatever group carries out that terror is irrelevant.
If the leaders of unionism didn’t do any of the above I would be demanding of them why not!
As a staunch defender of my ‘country’ I would have continued to seek out as much assistance and support from within my community and further afield if possible in my efforts to defeat those who ‘threaten’ me. I would have sought support and assistance from all areas of society be that in business,media,state forces,education,sport and indeed health to maintain my peoples hegemony. Perhaps a committee of some sort would have been set up as a logical way to manage all our potential? ; )
The day Gregory Campbell,Nesbit etc declare that violent unionists didn’t act on their behalf and were traitors to the British state and unionism then we might sit up and take a bit of notice of their moderate utterances. In fact why don’t they start a campaign via Facebook mar shampla and urge people to sign a petition demanding that violent unionists stop ‘hijacking’ the poppy? Now there’s a start.
What about you william or indeed Norma? Will you lend your support to such a petition? It’s time to sxxxx or get off the pot me thinks.
William, over 30000 republicans spent time in jail during the troubles.Barely 3 British soldiers were jailed.Hence the need for inquiries to be heavily weighted against the Brits
Yet inquiries in to ‘troubles’ deaths and injuries are not heavily weighted against ‘the brits’.
This idea that they are seems to be in the imagination of many Unionists.
Several months ago the British government announced there would be no Judicial inquiry into The ‘Ballymurphy massacre’ murders by the British army. And they announced no further inquiries into Pat Finuncane’s murder.
To the best of my knowledge there has been one conviction post Good friday agreement for an offence carried out pre good friday agreement and that was a shooting of a UDR soldier in the 1980’s by an IRA man. The IRA man spent two years in prison for this.
There was an inquiry into supposed Gardai collusion with the IRA into the killings of two R.U.C officers.
Of course Gregory Campbell was happy for that inquiry to take place as opposed to his stance on the Bloody Sunday inquiry. This is because he is a nauseating bigoted hypocrite who wants justice for one side but not the another.
Antonio, I take it you believe what you write, or are you simply just trying to wind us up.
The simple percentage division of murders during the troubles were 60% attributable to republicans, 30% loyalists, and 10% security forces, it’s not that difficult really, but I’ve no doubt there will be an attempt to twist the reality of the figures.
the key word in your response is ‘SIMPLE’. ”
”The simple percentage division of murders during the troubles were 60% attributable to republicans, 30% loyalists, and 10% security forces”
To the best of my recollection it is 57% of the murders were attributed to republicans – but I note how you rounded it up to the nearest 10 there so as to make it sound just that little but worse.
Anyways, is there something in my post that is factually incorrect ?? I am not sure what it is in my comment that you take exception to ?? Because you do not address any of the points I have made. the majority of murders were carried out by republicans, and as I said there has been one conviction for attempted murder that occurred prior to 1998 after the Good Friday agreement. he was a republican. The likelihood of criminal convictions against anyone for offences prior to 1998 is very slim. The likelihood of convictions for a member of the secuirty forces for any offence during the troubles is very slim and probably less likely than an IRA man being charged and convicted- and yet it seems to me – certain unionist commentators and Unionist politicians have whipped up fears amongst their community that there is about to be an onslaught of criminal proceedings against former security force members. Which is not going to happen – so I ask where is this myth of unfair focus on security force crimes coming from ?? it partly comes from politicians like Gregory Campbell inculcating this fear into his own constituents that the republicans are getting it all their own way etc etc
Of course your figures of 30% for Loyalists (why do you not call them Unionists? Loyalists are Unionists after all) and 10% for security forces are dubious at best and at worst utter nonsense. Presumably you are doing your best to convince yourself that collusion was just a few bad apples amongst the ‘security’ forces. utter drivel as far as I am concerned. The British state were up to their neck in murder during the ‘dirty war’. If this winds you up then so be it – and if your little siege mentality goes into overdrive after reading this and you feel the urge to barrage me with endless whataboutery of what the IRA did spare me (im well aware of it and i wish most of their actions never took place) except for the paras – im glad they were blown to hell at Warrenpoint
Slán
Ha Antonio, the response I expected with absolutely nothing new but the same conspiracy theories, David Icke would be proud of you.
I have stated a number of times, and i will do so for you again. I abhor terrorism from all quarter, and I had no time for Ian Paisley and those of his like. Loyalist terrorists never represented me or anyone I know, never have and never will. You may allege what you like, that is your prerogative, it would be easy for me to state that all nationalists supported the IRA, I do not believe that and would not even allege it.
By the way, who is Slan
He’s the Indian guy that sells yoghurt…
It’s true what they say about Unionists believing their own propaganda
Nuala O’Loan – English woman and former police ombudsman
Johnston Brown – former RUC detective
Anne Cadwallder
Brian Feeney
The British government
numerous loyalist paramiltaries
these are just some of the sources that have documented extensively about security forces collusion in murder of Catholics with Unionist paramiltaries
and you continue to argue it is a david Icke like conspiracy – pathetic
by the way – well done on not believing that all nationalists were IRA supporters – clearly you are a beacon of moderation and tolerance in our society
Bloke Signals
Big Chief Crooked Mouth of the Tribe DUP
Is in graw with the Squaw of Buck TeePee
She says: How ! Tonto
He genuflects so pronto
Medicine Man treats him for wounded knee.
x ‘graw’: Hiberno-Leprechaun for ‘love’.
Your rhythm becomes more sure-footed by the day, Perkie…
GRMA, Esteemed Blogmeister.
The Cascades said it all: ‘Listen to the rhythm of the falling rhyme’.
Of course, Greagoir’s cousin, Glen, paid his dues with his shifty fingers by playing a nifty guitar as part of the legendary studio ‘Wrecking Crew’ on their wonderful one-hit.
Coincidence?
Perhaps, perhaps not.
The DUP’s backroom boys, die Spin Doktors are not nicknamed the ‘Wrecking Crew’ for naethin’.
PS Greagoir Campbell/ Glen Campbell. Cousins, same initials. The only difference, indeed, the wee matter of talent.
Ah, Mighty Perk , the Lineman of the County , Rhine-stoned Cowboy and one time Brian Wilson stand-in ,playing as Beachboy sub… as cousin to the CamBéal of Curry My Yoghurt legend…there’s got to be a song in it .Time to gather the Wrecking Crew anew and re-build that legendary Wall of Sound…A Christmas single perhaps?.An Ode to Gregory….
Don’t go wasting your time William, for as long as my arse is behind me we will never agree with these people.
`THESE PEOPLE`?
I’m a great fan of old movies and here in North America we have the Turner Classic Movie Channel (TCM)
Ted Turner founder of CNN bought the rights to many of the old black and white and many color movies going back to the 1920s. Wow!
Anyway the reason I bring this up is to show the similarities between the DUP and the many Americans over the years that treated the ‘colored folk’ as something less than human.
Anyone remember the old Tarzan movie and how the white hunters treated the many ‘carriers’? When any of these black ‘boys’ were shot or fell of a cliff, the white hunter/explorer just stepped over them and got another ‘boy’ to carry the load the dead ‘boy’ dropped.
No remorse or regret about a human life lost. Hell, it was just another black guy! (Hollywood loved that stuff)
I remember vacationing in Florida for the first time many years ago and being amazed to see signs on washrooms, “Whites only” hell even on drinking fountains.
Now back to the DUP and Mr. Campbell, it’s seem to me Mr. Campbell and his cohorts feel the same way about Catholics/Irish, as Americans felt about African Americans in the not to distant past.
There is still an element of racism here and it is more prevalent in the South than in the North, but it’s there nonetheless.
I’m not sure the North of Ireland can erase the stigma of bigotry any time soon, because after all, unionists by sharing power with republican/nationalists, negate the very reason they insisted on the state being created in the first place.
” immorality of one of its member’s errant sex -life” …. errant sex life to describe an adult man raping a teenage girl?
That bit of writing has shamed your argument.
Okay , Virginia …let’s not beat about the bushes Was it rape or not? I thought we all agreed that the charge had to be proven in a court of law. Is that not so?Anything else is our assumptions only…Just like the Bladerunner case…we mostly thought there should be a different result but…… We’re not dealing with wishful thinking Virginia . We’re dealing with reality here..The man , no matter how deviant a bugger we might think him, and if he was a rapist , i think he’s a worthless piece of shit to treat anyone in such a humiliating and basically hateful and misogynistic way,…He . has still not been tried and gaoled as a rapist yet .. I have a wife and three daughters so I know something about these fears and rape is an act of control and violence.. If the lady concerned was under age , it is also paedophilia.The argument is that it is not a unique behaviour in only one section of society.It happens everywhere.
None of us can say he was a rapist, either, and still pretend to respect the law of the land .Until he is tried and convicted we cannot say that.In fact , by saying it we leave ourselves open to prosecution…. Maybe you’d rather he was tried in one of those “kangaroo courts” that were all the rage, Virginia and then possibly castrated or neatly kneecapped? ..Or maybe you’d prefer to stop and think where that kind of thing might lead. before you go shooting off at the hip with slight little one-liner critiques….I think your own prejudices blindsided you this time.This is not a contest..
Paddy, the cliche is the ‘dogs in the street know’, it was rape, GA and his cohorts were terrorists, GA protected his brother whilst he was raping GA’s niece, I’m even sounding boring now myself because it’s been said so many times.
GA has announced there is a spaceship landing tonight on the Falls Road, I would guess there will be at least 50,000 there to see it.
Ah william ….yes, yes , yes….but it all falls apart unless you can round up one of those wee dogs and get it to stand up in a court of law and do more than think about barking…These know -all dogs that never say anything….
The British state were protagonists in the conflict and not innocent onlookers.
Her majesties armed forces were responsible for the deaths of unarmed and innocent British Subjects, at least that’s what the British government claim they were. ( They weren’t dignified with the privilege of citizenship, ) at Ballymurphy and Derry, circa 1972.
Unionists have selective amnesia when it comes to history, they and their British masters were perpetrators of the troubles, and they should be held to account for their evil actions against one select group of people, namely the Nationalist/Republican community!
If Mr.Campbell et al really believe they are British, living in a part of Britain, why are they not outraged at their own government killing their own innocent fellow Britons.
“Unionists have selective amnesia when it comes to history, they and their British masters were perpetrators of the troubles, and they should be held to account for their evil actions against one select group of people, namely the Nationalist/Republican community!”
Jim, please tell me you don’t really believe this.
Sorry to disappoint you William, but I seriously believe it in my heart and soul.
And if you ask the reason or logic for my belief, my answer, because it’s the truth!