I wonder will the police investigate that picture of a number of masked men with baseball bats beside a poster declaring ‘Taigs will be crucified’. Let’s face it, you can’t get much more sectarian than that. Taigs. I suppose any taig will do. And they’ll be crucified. Blatant sectarianism at its blunt best. But I’ll lay odds the PSNI won’t investigate the photograph or the people in it or the people who put it on social media – just as I don’t expect the PSNI to take down paramilitary flags that bedeck dozens of lamp-posts in the Greater Belfast area.
Why not, if the law is being broken? I’m assuming it’s because they think any action such as removing the flags or pursuing the would-be crucifiers would excite a reaction from them which might end God knows where. Which as a strategy probably makes sense, but it also shows us that the law applies only in certain cases and under certain circumstances.
Of course there’s little point in nationalist or republican politicians drawing attention to this flags and photographs. Except unionist politicians are prepared to come out and condemn these actions and urge the PSNI to act, the flags and the photographed threats will remain.
There’s a grim logic to all this. If the PSNI are afraid to intervene, it suggests areas where lawlessness rules.And if unionist politicians aren’t prepared to condemn this kind of illegality and sectarian threat, the only conclusion one can come to is that those unionist politicians are more or less in agreement with the illegality and sectarianism.
Which is why the ‘they’re all the same’ comment on politicians here is unhelpful and essentially stupid. Some politicians clearly have no problem with these flags and sectarianism; other politicians condemn sectarianism and illegality, regardless of where it originates.
And if you can’t tell which is which, you can’t have been paying attention over the past ten or twenty years.
3rd paragraph, Jude, “except unionist politicians aren’t prepared” (presumably)
No, Paul (I instinctively assume I’ve made another boo-boo – see Brian above) – I meant nothing will be done except unionist politicians speak out and urge the PSNI to pursue these people.
Not to be nit-picking Jude, but I can’t see the word ‘all’, although I don’t doubt that it’s implied. I am trying to decipher the ‘VTOT’ or is it ‘UVOT’ … can anyone enlighten me?
You’re right Brian – I’ve been out and the thought’s been nagging in the back of my head that I over-stated. Grma -on my way to amend.
after seeing these antics for near 60yrs now ime used to it,but its at where the bus from dublin ect comes in so at least the tourists are getting a good view of the wildlife which cant be a bad thing,
They should be arrested no doubt about it indeed anybody involved in any anti social behaviour but sadly you wont get cross community support for that .
Which side (or is it both sides?) will support not come from, neill?
Case in point if there was a loyalist riot Nationalists would demand that they be arrested and of course the converse as well however there would be a marked reluctance to support arresting people from their own side if they were out rioting hich is a major issue I believe all rioters and anti social elements should be arrested no matter were they come from
Sectarianism , racism ,bigotry etc should be complete anathemas to any normal rational human being. I sometimes wonder is it all down to conditioning , social background or ” cultural ” indoctrination when this is not so…. or is there a genetic defect. .When the First Minister is apparently content to represent much less than 50% of the electorate and by silence , condones what happens here , that continues to perpetuate it. The roundabout ceaselessly continues , the law-enforces refrain from enforcing , the British government , guarantor of our laws , spouts about the ” Magna Carta ” , wants to repeal Human Right’s legislation and looks the other way…this perpetuates it …..where do we go ..what do we do ?
here’s some background to “crucify all taigs “https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2014/03/12/licence-to-kill/
Seamus, according to the front page of today’s Irish News the first minister may have other problems on his mind at the moment!
Liberals would wonder why so many Cells where provided in Mobile huts for short and medium term incarceration, Emergency Courts to fast track those disturbing the peace, Extra Police drafted in from Britain, Water Cannon, Dogs, maybe even a Kitchen Sink as all else was in place and primed to tolerate no infractions to the LAW……..
No, not the Hate Festival where the LAW is usurped at so many Junctures that it is an “in Joke” among the Bowler Hats as to who holds Sway over it…..
It was Fermanagh at the G8 that this impressive display of adherence to Civic Virtue and the rule of LAW was applied…..
Wherefore the Will of Albion on incursions from the loyal lodges on the other main Community in Erin….?
” But one commitment will inevitably remain, which is the obligation for maintaining law and order within the United Kingdom. Recent events in Northern Ireland serve as a timely reminder that this cannot be taken for granted and in the historical context it may be of interest to recall that when the regular army was first raised in the seventeenth century, ‘Suppression of the Irish’ was coupled with ‘Defence of the Protestant Religion’ as one of the two main reasons for its existence.
The above words were written by the guru of British military strategy in the
1970s, Brigadier Sir Frank Kitson who shaped the basic strategy for prosecuting the war against ‘the Irish ‘……..
The above quote and footnote below it, are the opening words in Paul Larkins’ Explosive Exposé on Britain’s relationship with Ireland in his book ‘A Very British Jihad’. A book that needs to be read.
The lack of Political Will to face down Unionist indifference to the rule of LAW, needs addressed. Fermanagh saw how such a resolve could be employed if the State wished it. That there is little State resolve from Westminster or Whitehall to face down Unionist extremism, contented with intrigue in Repubilcan Micro groups, who seem only to be a threat unto themselves, is very telling. Why we have to suffer for this lineage of unbroken mischief? Maybe the PSNI explained to the UVF over dinner in Wales, but the details have scant been revealed to the rest of us.
A reason, perhaps, why the ever-alert media down here, Esteemed Blogmeister, have not deigned to take a blind bit of notice of the comical photo which illustrates your blog today, is that we have our own KKK here in the Free Southern Stateen.
Which is quite enough to be going on with, GRMA
KKK being the kingpins of that most racially superior sporting gang, the GAA. The only difference between them and the disarming charmers of the Kodak moment is a matter of merchandise: in other words, BHS.
Where the clap-happy chaps in the snap favour merchandise beginning with B: Balaclavas and Baseball Bats the KKK down here tend more towards merchandise commencing with H: Helmets and Hurleys.
K for Kerry; KK for Kilkenny.
One knows this from listening to one, Ian O’Doherty of the Irish Dependent. Only last Sunday this domestique of wheeler-dealer Denis O’Brien venomously denounced the GAA as this ‘arrogant organisation’ for having the ‘sheer neck’ to seek ‘preferential treatment’ from that exemplar of Greek Drama, NAMA.
Venomously, as a hiss pot of vipers understand the v-term.
That he chose to do so on Newstalk with Sunday Morning Coming Down is purely coincidental, by the way. (Newstalk being just one of the many wireless stations which is under the carefully manicured thumb of DOB in his DOBlin communications empah). After all, If it wasn’t Newstalk, there was always Today.fm aka 24/7. At the end of the day, going forward.
Only, Ian O’Doherty, in his Fianna Fulmination did not choose to call it the GAA but rather opted for the more street-wise, the more tolerant, the more inclusive: GAH. Which is, of course, short for GAH ! Humbug ! in the Rainbow Republic.
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What rattled the tail of a viperish IO’D on this occasion was the audacity of the GAH. What caused his tail to unrattle was the principled refusal of NAMA (an acronym you good folk are becoming unfamiliar with in Norneverland, not) to deliver the leisure centre of Spawell unto the greedy maw of the GAH.
(Leisure Centre, by the way, is fluent FSS for driving range, a pitch and putt course and large lounge bar).
Continued the lad O’Doherty: ‘You would think that the GAH would have learned their lesson after spending a fortune trying to block Rovers from going to Tallaght, which is just up the road from Spawell”.
As none of this mild assertion, which was as top-heavy with distortions as a leaky migrant boat in the Mediterranen, was challenged by the impartial host of the DOB-controlled radio programme in q., perhaps a line or two of the L.E. Eithne variety is required:
1. The Rovers in question is ‘Shamrock Rovrers’. So well known it does not require the three-leaved weed attached. Think of Roy. Who needs a second name there? Yes, that Roy,not of the Rovers, but formerly of Cobh Ramblers, whom DO”B, oddly enough, is bankrolling to the tune of 700,000 squids per annum.
(Throw a squid to catch a shark. That would be the poppy-wearing chap from the Re-bel County who used to play in his early days, according to his latest PV, for ‘Queenstown Ramblers’.)
2. The entity within the GAH which ‘spent a fortune’ was actually the local, i.e.,. Tallaght parish club, Thomas Davis GAA Club. Which did so in the courts in a vain though critically-acclaimed attempt to gain justice from the South Dublin Council. Justice, in this instance, to allow for a community-based sports arena where all sports could play. Instead, the local Council opted for an outside entitiy, Rag-ball, oops, Shamrock Rovers. And picked the back pocket of the local tax payers to do so, the better to fund this itinerant outfit..
3. The GAH, in this instance, the Dublin GAA County Board actually offered above the asking rate of some 6 million plus in the case of Spawell. An offer which NAMA found no problem in refusing.
Not exactly to the chagrin of IO’D: ‘The last bloody thing this country needs is another bloody (ah- the b-word again !) GAH ground’.
Little could he have known that KKK, just a couple of short hours later, showed just why this poor, unfortunate FSS may well need another such ground, not least in high summer..
For summer, you see, is a the most wicked of all the seasons for that three headed watchdog of the DOBlin media known as (gulp) Cerebrus. Made up of Ian O’Doherty (as the Serpent’s Tail); George Byrne (as the Mane of Snakes) and of course, Declan ‘Game for a Staff’ Lynch, who acts as the Lion’s Claws.
The reason why the Summer is such an ongoing horror show for them is obvious: the toxic GAH season coincides with the off-season of the, erm, Premiership. (The Premiership, by the way, in relation to the other soccer, oops, football leagues of Europe, is the equivalent of the Vauxhall Conference of happy memory).
Or at least Cerebrus was three-headed, up to quite recently. Sadly, it has now been reduced to a double-headed dog with the premature departure of G.B., the sophisticated fellow who was the onlie begetter of those polished gems of Wildean wit: ‘bogball’ and ‘ stickfighting’.
In their down time these three, erm, amigos used to take to the Alternative Comedy Circuit as a stand up trio and went under the stage name of ‘Flecks, Foam and Froth’. (Alternative Comedy, btw, translates as ‘when nobody laughs’).
Now, of course, the salivary glands of the remaining duo (Foam and Froth) are on overtime, causing a general rabies alert as the threat of ‘Hibernophobia’ grows. This is the particularly virulent strain of Hydrophobia (‘fear of water’ )which is peculiar to the Free Southern Stateen.
It refers to the fear and loathing which the likes of Cerebrus harbour for the stretch of briney which separates this island from the Mainland. Its symptoms include a rising of the foam level at the mention of Kerry and a heightening of the froth quotient when ever Kilkenny is in the news.It is as its most lethal during the months May to September.
Like ‘Cerebrus’ itself the word ‘hydrophobia’ has its hellish origins in the Hellenic republic of Greece.
Now, that Yanis the Unflappable is newly unemployed perhaps his dog-handling skills, oops, skill sets might be put to good use in these parts?
Gawd, Perkie – and there was me thinking the meejah up here were the lowest form of life. I concede the crown to those virtuosos you’ve described….Yes, Yanis might be useful, but only if he was carrying a baseball bat… Or hurley, come to that…The man has balls already…
Jude, the man HAD balls, but as you are no doubt aware, he has been castrated at the behest of Dear Angela.
Can’t say if she wanted them on a plate, though!
Sherdy – I like to think of him as still intact, just off-stage, waiting for his moment to reappear (maybe on his motorbike, driven straight towards Angela…)
Jude, the only time he will be on-stage will be singing counter-tenor!
I would like to think he has more regard for his motorbike than to possibly damage it running into Angela.
Did you notice, when making his exit and his wife riding pillion, he was wearing his crash hat – she didn’t have one.
The man has his priorities right!
don’t cry for Mr veroufakis –
say hello to our old friend Mr tsalatos and
meet Mr battiato – hope you enjoy his music
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2015/07/06/goodbye-varoufakis-hello-tsakalotos/
The silence of a sick society
An innocent young man was attacked by a mob, kicked and left for dead in Derry. There is an ongoing murder investigation given the known number of people involved in this specific sectarian incident. Prior to his murder, social media comments expressed the notion of killing Catholics through the medium of pejorative terminology.
A society that tolerates the premeditated murder of Catholics, as articulated in the above picture, abdicates the right to describe itself as Christian or God fearing.
Just when you think you’ve seen it all. Photos of people stating that “Taigs will be crucified”, yet no psni there to arrest them, absolutley deafening silence from Unionist politicians. No condemnation from the FM or any of his party(What thinks you Gregory Campbell?). Plenty of nationalist/republicans held without charge yet these embarassments are allowed to hold sway without any repercussions. More of the same from the past. Sadly I am not in the least bit surprised by this. When Orange halls were vandalized they were condemned by McGuiness and Adams outright. I guess Dodds et al see nothing wrong here.Ken Magennis, do you approve? I guess this fits the description of “an acceptable level of violence”. A shameful double standard and a depressing attitude
It really is sad that another generation of imbeciles have been born.Take a look at the photograph. There’s not a lot of wit or intelligence on display .This stance with the neanderthal clubs is as about as good as it will ever get for these poor folks. Maybe the like of the DUP are so embarrassed by them that they turn the other way. Who is going to claim them?By the looks of things they are about to lead short stunted stupid lives and nobody can do a thing about it .
There is no law against bigots and fools being conceived after all.Any idiot can breed without a licence and spawn even more idiots. No one likes to say it but the dark and muddy pool where all this kind of life begins appears to have no escape route built in. The idea of education is anathema so the same old foul bile is drunk down as the stuff of daily life.Some of our politicians encourage it on a regular basis , either by their input or their silence.
The police know it’s pointless chasing them down until there is maybe an actual crucifixion. They’re all such great Christians that the idea of crucifixion might have some tribal appeal.Next it’ll be hanging , drawing and quartering to the four points of the compass…or heads on spikes. I can still remember instances of tarring and feathering and be-heading in Norneverland .It’s not so long ago.
In any case ,i’ve often said that the natural laws are in suspension here.We may well be as Irish as Cork but we have never been as British as Finchley after all.When these lunatics actually commit the crimes they are blatantly boasting of , they’ll spend the rest of their days locked away in high-security prisons for the insane .In the meantime , the police will use their valuable time chasing down some old ladies who break the 30mph speed limit in town . They ‘ll not be chasing the midnight ramblers who get up in the wee small hours to decorate our kerbstones like a circus or those who climb our lamp posts to flaunt their gaudy colours and their insecurity. There are easier things to do in life than running after the wee wild beasties.
How do these people channel their hatred of Catholics? Back in the day they could go out and shoot them or torture them, since the ceasefires where do they go and how do they get their kicks? There`s only so much satisfaction one can get from taking part in fleg protests or from complaining about (non existent) attacks on `culture`. So where do you go to, my ugly?
traditionally Loyalists murdered and maimed catholics, burnt them out of their homes and terrorised schoolchildren .
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/hallmarks-of-orange-loyalism-then-1795-and-now-then-2013/
Now they are doing the same to anyone who isn’t a white protestant male – it’s called “expanding the sphere of influence”!!
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/interim-joint-sovreignty-tackling-the-culture-of-intolerance/
This all ties in with the general impotency of the PSNI. Whether this is self-imposed or imposed from above, I could not say. When the flegs started flying in my town this year, I reported it to the local PSNI. The man on the phone was very helpful, sent someone out to investigate my complaint and called me back to say that yes, there were indeed flags flying where none had flown before.
He then told me that it is PSNI policy not to do anything about this, as they have to be seen to be impartial on such matters. I decided against telling him that the impartial response would be to remove them so as to have no flags flying at all, but there you go.
He then told me that my complaint would be passed to the Council. Given that our local UUP Councillor was one of the fellas putting the flags up, I can’t say I hold out much hope…
Perhaps we should just be honest with ourselves and agree that any notions of law and order in the north are a sham. Better than in the bad old days of the RUC I suppose, but we still have a long way to go. They wouldn’t stand for this in Britain.
It is really quite sad for everyone living here but not least for the community where these young no-hopers originate.
When it eventually dawns on them that they are unlikely to readily inflict their hatred on some innocent Catholic because they have already made their areas so unwelcoming to Catholics that none will venture there, they will invariably turn their hatred on to their more usual fodder – immigrants, non-whites or gays.
I supposed we really shouldn’t be surprised when we see a girl standing among the morons!
Nazi flag now erected in Carrick.
Just a cultural safety valve according to RDE !
What’s worse, a bigot or an apologist for a bigot ?
If, say 10,000 tricolours were distributed throughout the North to be erected on various street furniture, then I believe you would see a more, let’s be charitable and call it, motivated PSNI. There would be Loyalist violence on a scale hitherto unseen since the days of the workers strike, but the net result would be legislation to deal with flags and emblems. It would hasten the demise of being able to fly a flag with impunity and contempt.
Perfectly stated Freddy, “motivated” may be the ultimate euphemism here.
What about the VTOT on the wall. Wish it was ulster scots for love thy neighbour!