Economic Incompetence by Jessica McGrann

 

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Imagine the DUP did a deal with Apple, to allow it keep 6000 employees in Ballymena.

Corporation tax is at 12.5% but they allowed Apple to incorporate 2 companies in Northern Ireland without having to specify an address and allowing them not to declare any activities not involving physical involvement in Northern Ireland. Not too difficult when there is no address and no employees here.

No other company here is allowed to incorporate a business this way, and for everyone else, all business sales MUST be declared by annual return whether they take place here or anywhere.

Now let’s imagine that this company is the largest on the planet and tens of billions of pounds in sales are going through these businesses.

Happy days you would think, but then you find that out of 24 billion in sales in 2014, only around 10 million tax was paid.  And this is happening every year, 2011 was 16 billion and again less than 10 million paid in tax.

Under international law, imagine we were entitled to this money but for some reason the DUP refused to take it.

We would all be ok about it I imagine, just pat Arlene on the back and say well done for keeping those jobs in Ballymena and for doing such a good job on the economy.

Obviously the countries where the sales actually took place that assumed tax had been paid in Ireland have pricked up their ears and have all piled onto the bandwagon to start claiming their share.

Italy has already had a pay-out since this was identified of over 300 million from Apple.

Over 186 billion is sitting in offshore accounts untaxed which Apple will have to pay tax on.

The bulk will go to the US and into R&D but a substantial amount will have to be paid in tax.

Other countries in the EU are queuing up to get a cut, but imagine the DUP said, no we don’t want any of it and as yet still haven’t bothered even though the money is in escrow to be paid into the EU and will be paid into the EU if Apple want to do business there.

Now as if that was not bad enough, imagine on top, we find that we had also been declaring capital assets moved here by this company as part of GDP.

It helped end austerity measures imposed and allowed increased borrowing up to 3% based on artificial earnings to ease austerity.

Sounds sneaky and canny way of improving the economy eh, except imagine now we have public sector demanding pay increases off the back of this false economy and the EU are about to stick hundreds of millions onto the annual EU contributions based on these artificial earnings.

So we are refusing to take tax money we are owed and as a result it will cost our economy hundreds of millions of pounds annually in additional EU payments which we can’t afford and would not have been expected to pay otherwise.

Now imagine it wasn’t the DUP but Fine Gael and Fianna Fail responsible for this mess.

How come the DUP are being scrutinised for much smaller losses than these other parties I hear you cry..

Well, I guess the biggest difference has to have been Nolan and the BBC so I guess they have Michael Lowry to thank for getting away with just about everything in the Irish medias eyes.

Who says crime doesn’t pay.

 

 

15 Responses to Economic Incompetence by Jessica McGrann

  1. Oz 2015 December 20, 2016 at 2:35 pm #

    “Imagine the DUP….”???
    ========

    The only question is How fat is the envelope?
    After REd sky/ Fat Wallet. Iris/Isil and Nama, Is that 6 million in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
    I can imagine the DUP singing Amhrán Na Bhfiann and burning the butchers apron on bonfires if the fee is big enough!!!!!

    Seriously though I think 400 Million of Brit Tax money is a small price to pay for off setting the carbon dioxide of all them bonfires.
    It’s all about kulture ya Know.
    It’s a shame Arlene doesn’t make that point. She’s only saving the planet.
    More green energy = more Bonfires. Carbon Offset.
    I expect Slugger Mac Fool will have it’s unionist apolgists write articles like this.
    Just had a wee peep at Slugger Mac Fool.
    The Onionist monkeyes on there, had “Blame SF” articles on there.
    Due to SF didn’t vote.
    Everybody who seems to know; says that unless a majority of UNIONISTS vote against ARLENE than she is SAFE.
    Slugger Mac fool failed to have one single brain cell.And bring this up.
    Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story, eh?
    I boycott that website and encourage all Nationalist Irish to Boycott it.
    They are only interested in collecting Nationalists thoughts and then constructing arguments against them.
    Any Nationalist who writes/ comments on Slugger Mac Fool is damaging Irish unity.
    If anyone wants to read that site by all means.
    Educate yourself on unionist propaganda and prepare counter arguments.
    But do not contribute either comments or articles.
    It serves it ‘s unionist masters not Us.

    Dealing with the question at hand.
    Britain has Cayman islands ..the City of London and many more sites that do what Ireland does.,
    The French it is said ;have an effective tax rate of 9% available.
    I think it is Minesota?? in the USA which is a “tax lite ” regime.

    In short Ireland is not unique.
    I will not commit Hari kari over what Ireland does.
    They’re ALL at it.
    Ergo The attempt to make me feel bad is lost on me.
    do I like it ? no.
    Quite clearly those who can most afford it should pay most in tax.
    The media campaign against Ireland is sickening to me.
    Let the Brits, americans and French sort their own mess out.

    But then that is why I am labelled Anti British.
    Because I am well aware of the double standards that one MUST cloak him/herself with; in order call themselves a subject of that nation.

    • jessica December 20, 2016 at 3:17 pm #

      Oz 2015, I have no idea what you are on about.

      This is not about making anyone feel bad. it is about ending the poor governance that exists on this island and making Ireland a stronger and better place for it.

      I am all for the low tax rate of 12.5%

      Apple are being allowed to keep 2 billion per year of Irish tax payers money which is now being divvied out to other nations. On top, our EU fees are going up based on declaring this revenue we didn’t earn which means we not only lose this money we were entitled to, but we pay hundreds of millions of pounds in penalties every year for doing so.

      Giving up 2 billion in tax and paying even an extra 200 million is 44 billion over 20 years compared to Arlenes 400 million.

      I don’t think the sheer scale of this has sunk in to the public yet – but it will sooner or later.

  2. Oz 2015 December 20, 2016 at 2:50 pm #

    VOTE DUP.
    Burning More Pellets. To Burn MORE Pallets.

    Coming soon to a ballymena near you.
    Is Unionism a joke?
    Yes it is.

  3. James December 20, 2016 at 7:55 pm #

    Jessica, with all respect, your interesting scenario is like a bird trying to fly on one wing. It just could not happen. Your first line: ‘Imagine the DUP did a deal with Apple, to allow it keep 6000 employees in Ballymena’, blows the rest of your hypothesis out of the water. The DUP, whenever they take their heads out of the sand, know full well that Arlene can not scratch herself without Martin’s say-so. If the DUP fail to come into the real world, then roll on the election. And yes Oz, Unionism is indeed a joke, unfortunately a very bad one for those living in the northeast of Ireland.

    • jessica December 20, 2016 at 8:38 pm #

      James, im afraid that this interesting scenario is very real and is very much happening now.

      I only used the DUP as everyone seems to be in a 6 county bubble or oblivious to what is happening here.

      Anyone who wants to see a united Ireland really needs to wake up to this.

      http://www.judecollins.com/2016/12/leprechaun-economics-jessica-mcgrann/

    • Oz 2015 December 20, 2016 at 10:07 pm #

      James.
      I feel optimistic that once the policy of unionism is shown to be a busted flush. The Youth or those 40 and under will bin it.
      Propaganda and lies are the only thing keeping unionism alive.
      For example see Brian Walker articles on Slugger Mac Fool.
      He blames Arlene on SF.
      This will make unionist deadheads feel good.
      But it won’t wash with many currently in Unionism.
      I refer to those who call themselves small U unionists and the like.
      No, it won’t wash at all
      They are preaching to a Sammy choir who bend the knee to Queen and British army.
      There are many in small u unionism who don’t swallow Orange wash.

      • jessica December 20, 2016 at 10:12 pm #

        O, Who is Brian Walker and how could he possibly have managed to blame DUP incompetency or corruption on Sinn Fein?

        I am intrigued, even MT here couldn’t manage that one.

        • Oz 2015 December 20, 2016 at 10:18 pm #

          Read this. The substance of this article is that it is the Shinners fault that arlene didn’t quit.
          http://sluggerotoole.com/2016/12/19/arlene-foster-triumphant-thanks-to-sinn-fein-imagine-that/

          • Am Ghobsmacht December 20, 2016 at 10:32 pm #

            He didn’t say it was the shinners fault, he simply stated that they didn’t avail of an opportunity to do so.

            And he is correct.

            However, i suspect that SF might have played a clever long ball here as they deprived the DUP of grassroots wagon circling when they clearly wanted it (hence Donaldson’s pathetic comments).

            Brian walker BTW is hardly a ‘big U’ unionist…

          • jessica December 20, 2016 at 11:46 pm #

            “Brian walker BTW is hardly a ‘big U’ unionist…”

            From his gloating attitude in the post in question, if that is a small u unionist then is there really any difference?

          • jessica December 20, 2016 at 11:30 pm #

            As with most things Oz, it all comes down to points of view

            The SDLP rushed to get the first dig in to get in front of the cameras calling for Arlene to resign. They didn’t think it through and went straight to the UUP, ignoring Sinn Fein, possibly so as to be seen to be doing more for nationalism than Sinn Fein.

            In the rush they failed to include an investigation within the motion and there was no way Sinn Fein could bring down the institutions without an investigation being setup as they would have no longer any control over it. There was no chance of the SDLP getting this through so Brian is correct, the DUP knew they would win the day.

            The earliest we can now get a motion including an investigation is 16th January, It is a pity the SDLP had not negotiated with Sinn Fein first and co ordinated the approach but they have their own agenda I suppose just as the UUP have theirs.

            Hopefully in the new year, all of the parties will co ordinate as one in their calls for a judge led investigation and it wont be another debacle of grandstanding and solo runs.

        • Am Ghobsmacht December 21, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

          ‘Gloating’?

          What’s he gloating about then?

          • jessica December 21, 2016 at 5:47 pm #

            Well AG, while there is little of the substance I would disagree with, the context in which it is written almost smacks of admiration for Arlene.
            So much so it is actually quite repulsive to read.

            Moreso, to compare the woman who insulted nationalists as rogues and renegades and unfit to have access to public money in which she would act as gatekeeper, as triumphant or the mouse that roared is laying it on a bit thick.

            Hopefully people will not be fooled by his efforts to tar Sinn Fein with DUP stains, we will see in the New Year if there are plans to stick together back-to-back against these allegations. It would be political suicide for them and Brian knows this full well I believe..

            Again, creative prose can smear with kindness.

            I agree with his final summary, in the New Year, Sinn Fein will be in control and in the driving seat with a more substantive motion on the table.

            Perhaps part 2 will be written with less smugness.

        • Am Ghobsmacht December 22, 2016 at 9:16 am #

          Jessica

          Are you joking?

          I’ve been following Brian Walker for years and I’m convinced he severely dislikes the DUP, to me the article could be summarised thusly:

          “The DUP, who are always mouthing about SF-IRA and ‘smash SF’ had to be rescued by the very people whom they tell their supporters are ‘the enemy’, what a bunch of gimps. Ha ha!”

          • jessica December 22, 2016 at 9:28 am #

            I had never heard of Brian Walker but I will accept your view AG, I know you use that site.
            It is not the way it came across to me but I can indeed see where you are coming from.
            Makes you wonder how much of our problems are down to misinterpreting one another.