‘Gerry Carroll: A Very Cultured Demagogue’ by Donal Lavery

During a previous Question Time episode, Peter Hitchens once remarked that Lord Michael Heseltine, a notorious political operator and chameleon, was quite the “very cultured demagogue” in chasing public opinion wherever he could find favour. It resonated with me that we have our own such figure within the ranks of People Before Profit, a populist who will entertain any Tom, Dick or Harry that has a vote – even if that means articulating things which have little to no consistency or stuff which is simply not plausible.

Everyone still has to afford Gerry Carroll a “fool’s pardon”; whether it’s his maiden speech in the Assembly or his theatrical performances lacking any specifics in their erudition, he performs for the cameras with a smoke and mirrors act each time. His supporters seem to think him a cross between a working class hero and Holden Caulfield. He offers a mixture of original and sound ideas – however, none of the original ideas are sound and none of the sound ideas are original.

Prior to the last Assembly election, I messaged him repeatedly on Facebook, for all to see, asking him to outline clearly where he was going to get the money to administer the starry eyed lucrative schemes which him and his band of revolutionaries sing and protest about. I must have asked him at least four times and not once did I ever get a specific response to the question of why and how the British Treasury would fund some sort of cold-water Cuba in the North while enforcing a Bedroom Tax on their own people in Britain. In the end, he deleted me off of Facebook because he knew other people were starting to notice the risible lack of articulate responses on his part. Mr Carroll certainly doesn’t have the gift of the gab that is being able to think on his feet, so to speak. Especially not when challenged.

But what is intriguing is that the sort of people who are voting for him – including many hardened Loyalists and anti-peace process Dissidents – are fully aware that his views and policies aren’t even implementable at Stormont, which has no sovereignty, no central bank and no currency to legislate for “Heaven on Earth”. They only pen his section of the ballot-box as a penalty kick against republicans.

I’ve put questions to many other elected representatives, including some fine Unionist politicians, and they have always done their best to answer in as comprehensive and clear a way as possible. I didn’t always agree with the replies I got but I respected them for at least taking the time to get back to me, especially when they knew I wouldn’t vote for their manifestos. They were professional. Mr. Carroll on the other hand has made a living out of saying whatever he thinks will go down well but ducking and dodging questions about his very own rhetoric and ideas. He has a habit of removing people from
social media who better understand his “policies” and their implications than he even does.

Everyone knows he didn’t get elected to take any decisions, he aims to be a politico in perpetual opposition. A lone voice in the political wilderness until he gets handed his P45. He can rant and rave but offers no solutions within the context of devolution which are remotely achievable or workable. He expects the British Exchequer to lift the tab for his notoriety/ideals, partially unaware that the more dependent we are economically on British financial subvention then the more partition is reinforced in Ireland.

Anyone who has glimpsed at the forecasts for the election on Slugger O’Toole will notice that the polls suggest People Before Profit’s roller coaster is coming to a stagnant conclusion so shortly after take-off. People are waking up to the fact that none of the big seminal things or projects which have been accomplished for West Belfast are Mr. Carroll’s own doing. I told him on Facebook that his rhetoric would catch up with him, that if you talk the talk then people will expect you to walk the walk. His protest vote is evaporating and locals are recognising that a vote for his party is as constructive as two bald men fighting over a comb.

In the end, I think most people are realising that if People Before Profit became the biggest party within nationalist areas they would still have to share power with explicitly right wing Unionists. But having no experience of securing demands from the British Government or Unionist politicians, we would have blindfolded eyes giving directions to public traffic. If People Before Profit should grace your door steps, ask them candidly where they would get the money to pay for their mandates when even basic legacy inquests are being denied funding by the British state. Ask them how the Unionists will agree to these Trotskyist style economic methods and Marxist-Leninist political “wet-dreams”. For after March 2nd, we’ll know for sure that the only people responsible for ruining People Before Profit are People Before Profit.

 

16 Responses to ‘Gerry Carroll: A Very Cultured Demagogue’ by Donal Lavery

  1. John Patton February 13, 2017 at 11:46 am #

    I look forward to reading responses to this crude, old-fashioned, full-frontal hatchet job from a writer who may well entertain a private agenda.

    • Janet Glennon February 13, 2017 at 2:05 pm #

      Well can you pin point what pbp have achieved from they were given 2 seats in the last election? In my opinion far from being a hatchet job or having an agenda of any kind, the above piece is basically Fact.

  2. boondock February 13, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

    ‘including many hardened Loyalists ‘

    Looking at Gerrys transfers last time that number would be in single digits. PBP should be hammered on the doors regarding brexit and designation. A protest vote is all they are but that should be enough of a warning to SF and SDLP that plenty think they are doing a pretty poor job

  3. moser February 13, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

    There is little doubt that PBP received the default vote but, that doesn’t change the fact that SF hasn’t used their political power to advance the position of their core supporters in the most disadvantaged areas ie, infrastructure and jobs. I now recognise that there are people on this blog who believe that to be some Marxist Socialist clap trap. And they further believe that people should be forbidden from organising their own labour ie, trade unions.
    It would be interesting to hear what SF have to say on both these issues ?

    • jessica February 13, 2017 at 5:14 pm #

      Moser I am all for bringing job investment and infrastructure development to areas of deprivation and playing a part in actually making that happen

      But let’s be clear
      Marxism will not deliver that it will prevent irish unity and is factually an utterly failed ideology
      That is fact

      Now is not the time for soundbites and rhetoric clap trap
      Now is the time to deliver and push until we cross the line
      There is no going back
      Sinn fein must put irish unity in a new Republic above socialist ideals
      a minority will not hold back majority and the reality is Ireland is not a socialist country

      Nor does it need or want to be to deliver for our people
      socialism is no less corrupt than conservation
      what we need is somewhere in between but leaning more to the left to help the less off catch up which I am all for

      but I am only interested in doing and what can work and not talking nonsense

  4. Argenta February 13, 2017 at 1:42 pm #

    I’m not sure what status Donal has within Sinn Fein but he seems to have been provided with a ready platform by Jude to attack all of the party’s perceived rivals in the forthcoming election.His efforts thus far seem to relate to North and West Belfast but maybe he will attempt to mount a hatchet job on Jude’s college contemporary (Eamon Mc Cann) in Foyle!Its doubtful if these increasingly shrill blogs will convert many but maybe they are meant to rally the Shinner troops in case of defections!!

    • giordanobruno February 13, 2017 at 1:48 pm #

      Argenta
      Yes I think they are aimed at shoring up the SF vote, and they do strike a note of anxiety.
      I was not likely to vote for the (rancid?) shinners anyway but Donal’s efforts are certainly making me consider voting PBP this time.

    • jessica February 13, 2017 at 6:19 pm #

      Well, in Donals defence, if by pointing out the fact that there is depravation unfairly allowed to lag behind other parts both within Belfast and west of the bann, I find it reassuring to hear Sinn Fern pointing out the reality that communist and far left rhetoric will achieve nothing.
      Now if they can turn that into centrist policies which will make a difference then we will get somewhere.

      The greater the support for PBP, the farther Sinn Fein will be pushed to the centre.
      We need more nationalist and republican parties though I am not sure whether PBP are either.

      It is a disgrace that other than Sinn Fein there is no other party I want to vote for, I will probably transfer to the WP just because their votes usually transfer to Sinn Fein whereas SDLP and Green party votes usually transfer to unionist parties.

  5. billy February 13, 2017 at 2:39 pm #

    donal would be part of the new age sf.gone the way of ff,and the workers party before them.anthony mcintyre explains it well on the pensive quill.why do you think snarlene was traded for provo on this site.

    • jessica February 13, 2017 at 5:21 pm #

      Yes sinn fein need to replace fianna fail as irelands lead party
      Republicans opposing this should do us all a favour and fuck off

      • billy February 13, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

        your lingo suits you.

    • Jude Collins February 13, 2017 at 6:27 pm #

      Billy – if you or anyone else refers to ‘provos’ when they mean Sinn Féin or ‘Snarlene’ when they mean Arlene, their comment will be removed. So please don’t waste my time.

      • MT February 13, 2017 at 9:02 pm #

        “Billy – if you or anyone else refers to ‘provos’ when they mean Sinn Féin or ‘Snarlene’ when they mean Arlene, their comment will be removed. So please don’t waste my time.”

        Jude, could you explain why?

  6. Wolfe tone February 13, 2017 at 7:59 pm #

    Well the boul Donal has made my mind up about this upcoming election.

    Jessica btw, your attitude and tone is a disgrace.

  7. jessica February 13, 2017 at 8:18 pm #

    It is what it is WT.
    We all make our choices and we have to live with them.

    Sinn Fein are the ONLY party on this island pursuing a new and united Ireland and they are moving in the right direction towards actually achieving it.

    Do you think anti Sinn Fein republicans can go against this opportunity in the stage it is at and we all remain one big happy family?

    Well, fuck that

  8. ANOTHER JUDE February 14, 2017 at 4:55 pm #

    Excellent article.