Over-reaching, Brexit and dark clouds ahead (for some)

Under normal circumstances, Martin McGuinness’s resignation would have struck a chord with nationalists and republicans. For months or even years, many had grown weary with unionist intransigence and contempt ; so when the Deputy First Minister called time, there was a sigh of relief throughout the republican and nationalist part of the electorate. Sinn Féin would almost certainly have made major advances in the election had Martin McGuinness’s health not been a factor. As it was, the poignancy of his retirement speech, from a man clearly in the grip of a serious illness, added to the sense of nationalist/republican outrage. As John Hume had spent himself in pursuit of civil rights and a unity of communities, so Martin McGuinness had spent himself in a ten-year pursuit of reconciliation and friendship with old adversaries. Martin McGuinness’s resignation speech rang like a tolling bell throughout the six counties.

But the DUP, ever eager to imitate its British masters, had foolishly overplayed its hand with its contemptuous reaction to the RHI scandal.

Much of nationalist/republican success over the centuries has been due to two things: Ireland’s actions when Britain is involved elsewhere, and Britain’s disproportionate response to those actions.

The Easter Rising won success out of failure because Britain was busy killing Germans in France and then overplayed its hand in executing the Rising’s leaders. Likewise, the IRA gained many new recruits, thanks to the excesses of the British Parachute regiment.

Today, Britain is in huge difficulty, first in having voted to leave the EU and secondly because the present Tory Prime Minister has brushed aside the requests from Scotland and the north of Ireland for special status post-Brexit.

And of course the problems post-Brexit wouldn’t be looming if David Cameron hadn’t over-reached and called an EU referendum in the first place. In its stupidity, his blunder ranks up there with Britain’s decision to execute Pearse and his followers. Now Theresa May, Cameron’s successor, looks all set to make a bad situation worse.

Already Britain has declared its outrage that the fate of Gibraltar should be tied in to EU withdrawal negotiations; the EU has responded by making it clear that they’ll not address the Gibraltar problem until all other matters between Britain and the EU have been negotiated. Which leaves Britain to fume and stew in its outrage.

With similar unenlightened arrogance, the British government has declared that Brexit negotiations must proceed in parallel with the establishment of a new set of relations with Europe. The EU, however, has made it clear that withdrawal will first be completed before any consideration is given to fresh economic relations. So what was already a bad situation is rapidly turning towards being a disastrous one. Meanwhile, the Tories’ new best friend, the DUP, insists that Brexit was a brilliant idea.

And if Britain is beset with difficulties in its European relations, it’s facing something even worse internally: the possible fragmentation of the UK. Can Ireland again avail of these difficulties? It can and it must.

Scotland is intent on another independence referendum, and this time they will start from a base of 45% pro-independence ; last time they started with less than 30% pro-independence. What’s more, this time round they have the telling economic argument that pro-Remain Scotland faces being dragged under by the flailing UK.

On this side of the Irish Sea, we in the north face a similar fate: a clear majority of us voted to stay in the EU, but Britain looks set to drags us out and down with it.

Our identification with Scotland is striking, and Alex Salmond’s presence at Martin McGuinness’s funeral was a clear signal that Scotland wishes to make common cause with us in the struggle against Brexit.

Much depends on how clear-eyed those in the Remain camp here in the north can stay. For nationalists and republicans it’s relatively easy, but for pro-Remain unionists it may be harder to accept that an answer that is staring us in the face: join with the south and stay in the EU.

According to my dear friend and failed DUP politician Nelson McCausland, Sinn Féin succeeded in the recent election because a ‘perfect storm’ of factors worked in their favour. Stand by then, Nelson for a fresh shipping forecast: heavy weather on the way, especially off the coast of Brexiteer unionism.

 

 

34 Responses to Over-reaching, Brexit and dark clouds ahead (for some)

  1. Patrick McDermott April 22, 2017 at 9:29 am #

    On the ball, as usual, Jude. Unionism, being true to form, isn’t fighting this or any election on Brexit or related economic/social issues but on the menacing spectre of Gerry Adams and republicanism ascendancy..Btw, you and your ” dear friend ” Nelson could be the new Chuckle Brothers……!!!!!!!

  2. paddykool April 22, 2017 at 12:20 pm #

    It’s looking as though the DUP ,as bestest friends of the furthest -right Tories ,are going to be a complete irrelevance after this election. What use will they be to Theresa May then? She’ll not care much either way what her newest Secretary of State, Mr Brokenshire’s replacement, does with them or their wee Executive.She can wait while they footer about play-acting at being politicians. As for Sinn Fein, most of their supporters couldn’t give a fiddlers whether or not there is a Stormont again, anyway.They know it is the one thing that the DUP really, really want, but they also know that it is like giving children too many sugary sweets…it makes them hyper-active.Give it back to them and they’ll believe they’re back running the place all on their lonesome within a few days. As far as nationalists are concerned , they got very little for all the spadework Martin McGuinness put into it anyway and it only gave unionism the impression that they could carry on like this forever.They put no real value on it at all.
    I think many nationalists can wait for a while to see what happens when all that smoke clears.Will the Tory majority be huge or will a stunned generation of youngsters get off their arses across the UK and begin a fight -back to unseat them after dropping them all into the mess of Brexit? Nearly half the voting population are very annoyed already , after all…so who knows what might happen.
    As for the DUP …here comes the “Marching Season ” anyway and all those lovely bonfires of pallets and rubber tyres ,with the burning effigies of Gerry the Divil…. and the tricolours all up in flames; the wee marching bands and all that dressing up in sashes and white gloves….Ahhhh!…..For excitement ,that’ll have to do for now .It’s more important for them than governments anyway….if only there was some way of getting paid for it .

  3. giordanobruno April 22, 2017 at 12:28 pm #

    When I took part in the Brexit referendum I understood it was a UK wide vote and not separate votes for separate regions.
    Clearly many people did not understand what they were taking part in judging by the amountl of whinging and moping about the result in different regions.

    • Jude Collins April 22, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

      You must try not to counter-argue by calling people names, gio. People might have understood it was a UK-wide vote but still think each region deserves individual attention. Then there are the blatant on-the-side-of-the-bus lies, of course…

      • giordanobruno April 22, 2017 at 4:06 pm #

        Jude
        I didn’t call anyone names.
        You must try to read what people write.

    • Ernsesider April 22, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

      And that of course is democracy Gio. And people have no right to whinge and mope even if the result was influenced by misinformation and racist bigotry. Just as every government elected in N. Ireland for fifty years (and since) was democratically elected by a majority of the people and entitled to rule as they saw fit ..??

    • Ceannaire April 22, 2017 at 4:15 pm #

      “,,,judging by the amount of whinging and moping about the result in different regions.”

      Democracy allows for dissent, Gio. It allows for opposition. That opposition has a right to “whinge and mope” against a decision they are fundamentally opposed to. And hadn’t we all had to listen to the “whinging and moping” from the leave camp for 40 years? Don’t you think Leavers would have “whinged and moped” had they lost?

      There was UK wide vote and the answer showed it was anything but united. That should not be allowed to be brushed under the carpet.

      • giordanobruno April 22, 2017 at 5:40 pm #

        Ceannaire
        Absolutely I agree democracy allows for dissent, but we all knew what thereferendum entailed before we voted and if we didn’t we should have.
        I don’t recall the big campaign to have the vote on a regional basis.
        Maybe Sinn Fein were out on the streets demanding people boycott the referendum but again I don’t recall it.
        There are sensible outlets for dissent now including the push for a border referendum and in Scotland the plan for a second independence vote.
        But the futile moping over the outcome is a waste of energy as is the likes of Joe McVeigh’s pointless protests in border regions
        As though Theresa May is going to say;
        ‘you know what you are right let’s ignore the result or even better let’s just go our separate ways right now’.
        Not going to happen.

        • Emmet April 23, 2017 at 1:56 am #

          Yep, everyone should just quit moping, accept partition, accept the deep cuts that are coming and just embrace the economic disaster that will be Brexit. Gio, I think people (unionist, nationalist by definition have already worked this relationship out) here are angry because they finally are seeing that Westminster doesn’t care about our little area and the people of Britain don’t give a crap what their decisions do to us. Again your attitude is unionist
          “When I took part in the Brexit referendum I understood it was a UK wide vote and not separate votes for separate regions.”
          Good for you, but if a region realizes it is not in step with the rest of the dis-united Kingdom then they are entitled to question their role in it.
          A small clique in London pushed Brexit and were backed by an organised media campaign. The ‘fake News’ fad around Trump originated in Britain during the Scottish Independence and Brexit campaigns. The people pulling the strings in Britain have a lot of influence and we need to abandon that sinking ship ASAP.

          • giordanobruno April 23, 2017 at 9:17 am #

            Emmet
            I never said anything about accepting partition did I?
            In fact I said
            ‘There are sensible outlets for dissent now including the push for a border referendum and in Scotland the plan for a second independence vote.’
            But a good mope requires you to only see what you want to see!

          • emmet April 23, 2017 at 9:50 am #

            I like moping sometimes, and yes I tend to see things that aren’t there. So Gio, please answer this one: Do you support the union and maybe give a few reasons? Also if you are feeling generous, if you set up a political party tomorrow in Ireland or Britain, what would be 5 defining policies?

    • ANOTHER JUDE April 23, 2017 at 5:55 am #

      The problem with that is Irish nationalists do not consider the north to be a ‘region’ of the UK. We see Ireland as a separate and unfairly partitioned nation. I understand unionists have a different opinion and that is fair enough but surely even the most pro English unionist can see how irrelevant we are to the great white Queen and her ministers? They don’t give a flying fig.

      • giordanobruno April 23, 2017 at 9:21 am #

        AJ
        Did Irish nationalists boycott the referendum?
        Did nationalist/republican parties call for a boycott on the grounds that they do not consider the north to be a region of the UK?
        Don’t play the game and then complain about the rules after you have lost.

        • emmet April 23, 2017 at 9:53 am #

          There wasn’t another game to play, the bully made up the rules and we were all affected by the game whether we decided to play or not. Not sure the game analogy works.

          • giordanobruno April 23, 2017 at 11:22 am #

            So a boycott would have been the principled option surely?

          • emmet April 24, 2017 at 7:13 am #

            Like I said, think the ‘game’ analogy is silly. Here is an analogy I thinks works in response to ‘your principled option’. Yesterday I was on my bike going around a roundabout when a 4wheel drive sped into to round about in front of me. I could have taken the principled option and kept going because I had the right of way but i didn’t, i slammed on my brakes. Would you tale the principled option in this case?

          • giordanobruno April 24, 2017 at 9:05 am #

            emmet
            I don’t understand your analogy.
            But I suppose the moaning about the terms of the referendum I am highlighting is a bit like you shaking your fist at that driver ie. utterly pointless.
            But when you say the bully made up the rules, surely the bully in this case was David Cameron who was a remainer? So you were on the same side as the bully as was I.
            It was the remain side which made up the rules and thought it would win after all.
            So just to be clear, what do you think can be achieved now by complaining about the size of the remain vote in different regions?

        • ANOTHER JUDE April 24, 2017 at 2:26 am #

          But we have been using the British electoral system to further the aims of Irish independence for a very long time. I am sure you will agree with that statement. The simple fact is we are totally irrelevant to the English ruling class. As for people not accepting the results I need only mention 1918. Why don’t unionists throw their lot in with their fellow Irishmen and have a genuine stake in their future? The days of Belfast being favoured over the rest of the country are over. There are no more big factories, no more ship building or linen mills.

  4. RJC April 22, 2017 at 12:31 pm #

    The constant references to ‘Britain’ as opposed to the UK suggest that, emotionally at least, Theresa May has already let go of these sick counties. The tubthumping 1690 brigade of course refuse to acknowledge the disdain in which Britain holds the north, insisting that Ulster (sic) is ‘an integral part of the Union’. The fools, the fools, the fools…

    Brexit is such an enormous act of wilful self-destruction that the rest of Europe can only look on open mouthed. In some regards, the upcoming election is entirely irrelevant. Once Article 50 was triggered, the UK lost control of Brexit – the UK’s future will now be decided by the EU. It’s up to the EU to decide what Brexit means, whether rhe Tories return with a majority of 200 or 2. Brexit is whatever the EU says it is.

    Unionism now has a choice – be 25% of a United Ireland with a great deal of input into how that nation is run, or be 2% of a (dis)United Kingdom with absolutely no say in anything whatsoever. Seismic changes are afoot, and history tells us that Empires never end well.

  5. Eolach April 22, 2017 at 1:33 pm #

    Pity ,Giordanobruno , that people weren’t so adamant and precise about the election result in 1918….it was alright to feck about with the democratic vote then ! I don’t think that Unionism ,in all it’s many guises ,has ever fought an election on social or communal issues , it’s always about rattling a sectarian cage and stirring a racial hornets nest for what they perceive to be best for themselves….never ever about dreams or ideals or anything for the betterment of society. Today we are witnessing Unionism standing at the bedside of Britain on a life -support system….they know the condition is terminal but they hope something will keep it going a while longer. Deep inside they know , but they haven’t thought of the future…it’s still on the long finger…..but soon reality will require strong decisions……

    • giordanobruno April 22, 2017 at 3:57 pm #

      Eolach
      Well done you and Ernsesider.
      Whatabout 50 years of unionist misrule
      Whatabout 1918.
      Very Good.

      • Ernsesider April 22, 2017 at 5:48 pm #

        Gio
        The brutality, rottenness and evil of Protestant/Unionist rule will not be easily forgotten. Much as you would like it to be ..!!

        • giordanobruno April 22, 2017 at 6:35 pm #

          Ernsesider
          Both irrelevant and wrong.

          • Ernsesider April 22, 2017 at 6:39 pm #

            Gio
            And I have to say that I find it deeply ironic to be criticised for remembering the past by a spokesman for people who have around 3000 Orange/Sectarian marches every year commemorating The Battle of The Boyne (1690), the Battle Of The Diamond (1795), Dolly’s Brae (1849) and other assorted victories over their unfortunate Catholic fellow citizens ..!!

          • giordanobruno April 22, 2017 at 7:27 pm #

            Ernsesider
            I’m a spokesman for who now?

  6. paddykool April 22, 2017 at 3:15 pm #

    Well ..yes .the whole Brexit thing was something of an error that PM Cameron misjudged…as did many of the Tories. Had he a chance to do it all again , he would not have done it. That’s a fact. Where is he now after dropping the big One? Had Brexit been a sale of goods , there’s no doubt that it would have been deemed miss-sold in any case . There were outright lies told as though by the most crooked salesmen and even at that , practically half the population didn’t buy that bullshit, including Theresa May who thought it was the worst idea ever. She , unfortunately was then left to sell it because there was no-one else in the frame after Boris was stabbed in the back. ….and even he didn’t really want it. Now they are in the thick of it and there is is only one thing to consider….just how much worse-off everyone will be when it’s all over. It’s only a matter of degree but we’ll be worse off.Nobody really doubts that. For that reason alone , half the population might not want to simply roll over and take it quietly.
    Here in Norneverland , we have always only ever been an after-thought ,so we’ll be worse off than that again…..hanging on to the hind- teat, without all those 80% EU subsidies that have sustained this place for forty years. Then there’s the border and how that will affect some thousands of people daily. Scotland is also rattled because Theresa May is acting like a prima -donna in much the same way that Arlene presumed she was some kind of queen -bee here. The Scots might want to remind Theresa before she assumes full Thatcher -mode that they want a free choice delivered by referendum , as a unique nation ,when they ask for it and not just when she deigns to remember them.They voted against Brexit,just like herself, so she surely understands their and our reasoning and why we might think that the UK is committing suicide.

  7. Eolach April 22, 2017 at 6:47 pm #

    Giordanobruno ,did I hit a raw nerve….is there something unsettling about mentioning 1918 and a stolen future that was democratically voted for ? ,and don’t give me any auld guff about the vote in the north-eastern part of Ireland. Seriously ,briefly tell me the successes of 50 years of Unionist rule and the benefits accrued by the subjugated nationalist population in their own country.

  8. giordanobruno April 22, 2017 at 7:25 pm #

    Eolach
    I have made no claims for any success during 50 years of Unionist rule, either today or any other day. Why would I?
    My point was about the Brexit vote, the subject of Jude’s piece.

  9. Eolach April 22, 2017 at 7:41 pm #

    Yes ,Gio , and my point is British democracy is very fickle and capricious .When it suits the principle of democracy is rammed home, not too subtly. ….but when the outcome is not acceptable it is insidiously and surreptitiously altered for Britain’s benefit…..nothing is ever set in stone!

    • giordanobruno April 22, 2017 at 8:52 pm #

      Eolach
      Do you see any prospect whatsoever of the British government being influenced by the majority vote for ‘remain’ in the 6 counties?
      The vote was UK wide and it is being implemented UK wide, as we all understood before hand.
      No use crying about it now.

  10. Argenta April 22, 2017 at 7:59 pm #

    Ernesider
    You seem to be implying that Gio is a spokesman for the Orange Order.Might I ask where your evidence is for this assertion ?In my experience of reading his posts,they are typically well constructed and logical.The fact that his posts more often than not challenge the prevailing S F narrative probably does not endear him to many.Election posters for Sinn Fein invariably trumpet the need for Respect,Equality etc.Perhaps a little more tolerance on this blogspot for dissenting voices would not go amiss!

    • giordanobruno April 22, 2017 at 10:28 pm #

      Argenta
      Ernsesider is just making some assumptions there. It happens a lot.
      Anyone who questions the SF narrative must be a unionist a bigot a fascist a liar or a useful idiot; all things I have been called here.
      I’m getting tired of it to be honest.
      Anyway thanks for providing a little sanity..

    • paddykool April 22, 2017 at 11:19 pm #

      I’m all for a little diversity myself ,Argenta ans i’m sure Gio knows this , but I find it very difficult to have any truck with the right-wing narrative of the Tories and the DUP will get no sympathy from me for jumping into those buggers’ pockets. To me they are both shameless , arrogant parties living on the backs on the people they supposedly represent.

    • Emmet April 23, 2017 at 2:11 am #

      I said this before and I will say it again. Gio and Argenta only comment to tear things down (usually the republican ideas) but never offer up much about what they really believe. Honestly it would be good to hear Gio’s view on the Orange Order, his level of support for the UDR/Loyalist terrorists/Brit army, for example. People will get frustrated and make assumptions, but saying nothing on the issue won’t help your case