Getting real about Brexit and Irish reunification

Reccntly I find myself cheered mightily by the fact that people who would have cut out their tongue before talking about a reunited Ireland are now raising the issue. That’s good. The more people who take a sober look at this age-old aspiration, the better. Issues like this need to build a momentum, and from that momentum positive things may come.

But let me make a few comments on some suggestions in the air.

  1. There is a tendency now, particularly within Sinn Féin, to “an agreed Ireland” rather than “a united Ireland.” This is good thinking: ‘united Ireland’ is one of these trigger words that is often followed by the rumble of iron blinds being lowered within unionist minds. However, we shouldn’t carry that too far. You could in theory have ‘an agreed Ireland’ that didn’t end partition, stiffened and/or added to the link with Westminster. In other words, let’s not be too coy about what we want, if we favour Irish reunification. There is a difference between diplomatic language and misleading language
  2. Donnchadh Ó Laoghaire, the Sinn Féin TD for Cork South-Central, speaking at the Gasyard Féile, has spoken of how, when and if in government in the south, Sinn Féin will introduce a Green Paper on Irish reunification. This is good. The republican electorate would expect no less. But we should be clear that a Green Paper won’t necessarily hasten reunification. It’ll help people think in more concrete terms about reunification, but it doesn’t mean it ‘ll happen.
  3. A majority in the north of Ireland favour remaining in the EU. However, we shouldn’t assume that they will then vote for a reunited Ireland as a way of staying in the EU. There are many who would – the nationalist/republican electorate, presumably. But there are unionists who see the advantage of staying in the EU, but should EU membership clash with UK membership, they’ll go for UK membership.
  4. That last pessimistic sentence of 3 above could be contradicted, should Brexit result in a north of Ireland which is suffering economically through being removed from the EU, while the south of Ireland is prospering economically through being a continued member of the EU. Experience is a hard but an effective teacher. But we haven’t seen the effects of Brexit yet. Until we do, and it has clearly different impact on the north and south of Ireland, placing too much emphasis on the north’s majority for Brexit is to over-state the case.
  5. For Sinn Féin to be in government in the north and in the south would be an important step towards reunification. It would encourage other parties to think in all-Ireland terms, and the more of them who do go the all-Ireland party road, the better. But Sinn Féin being in government north and south would clearly be good for the party. I’m not clear on how it would be good for reunification.
  6. Ó Laoghaire cited the ‘Modelling Irish Unification’ paper of 2015 and said it added to the economic argument for reunification. So it does. But have you talked to many recently who’ve read that paper from the University of British Columbia? Who’ve been persuaded by it?
  7. I believe economic studies like that from UBC are valuable – vital, even. But people tend to think in terms of specific examples, not just over-arching theories. What is needed by those favouring reunification is a series of case studies of the impact of Brexit on particular citizens or groups of citizens. Just as we all know the Troubles brough pain and grief, but are truly persuaded of this when we hear the harrowing detail of an individual victim, so too people will be won to the economic case for Irish unity when they have, alongside the big theoretical study, the practical examples of Businessman A or Farmer B or Citizen C, and how his or her life has been damaged by Brexit. Sinn Féin and others interested in a reunited Ireland should assemble such a portfolio of case studies, gathered by economic experts and researches, with all haste possible.

15 Responses to Getting real about Brexit and Irish reunification

  1. Tam August 20, 2017 at 1:42 pm #

    We already have an agreed Ireland.

    And the supposed UBC paper is so fantastical and discredited that perhaps does more damage than good for its cause.

    • Jude Collins August 20, 2017 at 6:31 pm #

      “Supposed”? You’ll have to explain that, Tam. I know UBC and I’ve read the paper. What’s your problem with it? (Assuming you’ve read it)

      • Tam August 20, 2017 at 6:44 pm #

        As you’ll see from the link below the report is credited to a consultancy firm and “UBC academics” rather than to the university itself.

        http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/united-irish-economy-could-deliver-boost-of-36bn-388959.html

        The report hasn’t been published in any journal so it has never been peer reviewed. Or perhaps it failed peer review because it is so poor. It was commissioned by an Irish Republican group.

        So it has little credibility.

      • huge Celt. August 20, 2017 at 9:03 pm #

        Q. What did it project about a post-Brexit 6 Counties/United Ireland?

        A. Nothing. The whole report was rendered irrelevant almost as soon as it was commissioned. Sinn Fein need to start telling the truth rather than flogging this particular dead donkey.

  2. fiosrach August 20, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

    Latest drivel in the news is that a hard Brexit will gain £135bn for the Uk. Explain,Tam, how you think that we have an agreed Ireland at the moment. Who agrees about what?

    • Tam August 20, 2017 at 3:38 pm #

      The Belfast Agreement (clue’s in the name).

      • Gearoid August 20, 2017 at 3:57 pm #

        Britexit will be a catalyst for constitutional change of the most profound kind as the breakup of your UK is a distinct possibility. A very punitive and painful exit is very likely to lead to another Scottish Independence referendum in the short term and will be a game-changer for Irish nationalists regarding the project for Irish unity.

      • huge Celt. August 20, 2017 at 9:17 pm #

        But the GFA was never implemented or delivered on.
        It’s a dead duck.

        • Tam August 20, 2017 at 11:25 pm #

          Of course it was. What a strange view.

  3. fiosrach August 20, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

    But the majority of unionists voted against the Belfast Agreement.

    • giordanobruno August 20, 2017 at 5:09 pm #

      fiosrach
      Did they?

  4. fiosrach August 20, 2017 at 5:35 pm #

    Yes,gio

    • dedeideoprofundis August 20, 2017 at 10:02 pm #

      http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/users/ireland/today/good_friday/polls.html

      Are you sure, fiosrach?

      • fiosrach August 21, 2017 at 6:57 pm #

        All I can see is “we can assume””it is reasonable to say” etc.etc. a lot of this on a voluntary phone in or a field of 500. And if their presumptions are anything like their spellings, I think we can ignore the relevance of this report.

  5. Jack Black August 21, 2017 at 2:43 pm #

    Taken from the link dede.

    It would be very interesting to find out what proportion of the Protestant community voted Yes. Although this cannot be found directly,