On getting over it (even when it’s hard)

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There’s an article in the Irish Times  this morning. The peg on which it hangs is the visit of President Higgins to Britain and the extent to which English people tend not to understand Irish people. At the same time it’s undeniable that English people are generous in their applause for Irish achievements, notably in the field of sport.

There’s truth in this. However, it’s also striking that the writer managed to navigate his way through the entire article without mentioning that a million and a half Irish people live north of the border. He may argue that he was talking about the people of the Republic, not the north; but the fact that he didn’t mention the north speaks volumes for the attitudes displayed and encouraged south of the border. The north is another place, and when you talk of ‘the country’ and ‘Ireland’ you are, it goes without saying, referring to the twenty-six southern counties.

Come to think of it, the writer of the article didn’t get round to mentioning the most talked-about feature of the coming bun-fight in Windsor Castle: the attendance of Martin McGuinness. I said in yesterday’s blog that McGuinness’s visit was aimed in part at blunting the ‘crazed killers’ presentation of Sinn Féin by the southern media. It’ll be harder for Miriam O’Callaghan to ask Martin McGuinness if he’s been to Confession after he’s been   to Windsor.

But I found myself thinking of how the population of countries regard those who have done them wrong in the past. It’s sort of astonishing. The Japanese, who had two entire cities of people obliterated by the US  show nothing but politeness and even warmth towards those who took so many innocent lives. The Vietnamese people welcome American tourists, display no grudge against those who travelled round the world to kill several million of their fellow-countrymen. And similarly the Irish: there are few Irish people today who are anti-English. They welcome them as visitors to this country and are open in their appreciation of the employment opportunities England affords. There is a warmth and a positivity about their attitude,  despite all the decades and centuries in which England inflicted the brutality of the coloniser on the native people.

And what of the people in the north-east of this country who identify themselves as British? Republicans and nationalists, who suffered discrimination and gerrymander over so many decades, who endured internment contempt and brutality at the hands of their unionist fellow-countrymen, show no tendency to bear grudges. In fact, it is indisputable that republicans continually make gestures of reconciliation and friendship towards unionism. Like other countries which have been ravaged and brutalised by a more powerful adversary, they refuse to allow resentment to corrode them. Whatever else may be said about republicans in general and Sinn Féin in particular, they have never hesitated to work for a better future in a spirit of co-operation and friendship with former adversaries.

Martin McGuinness’s visit to Windsor Castle is another daring step on that journey – one which risks loss of faith from some fellow-republicans. But then the Sinn Féin leadership has a habit of making bold moves that catch everyone on the hop – Gerry Adams standing for election in Louth, Martin McGuinness running for the Irish presidency, and now this Windsor visit.  Maybe we should stop looking at how it’s received by fellow-republicans. Instead let’s ask: will we see an equally generous response from DUP politicians, who so far have remained tight-lipped  and crouch on the Resentment Step?  Watch this space.

19 Responses to On getting over it (even when it’s hard)

  1. paddykool April 7, 2014 at 8:55 am #

    Jude :
    Put it like this Jude.World War Two with all its atrocities , including the bombing of Dresden, the horrors of Dachau and Belsen, the blitz of London , Coventry and so on, ended in 1945. Hiroshima and Nagasaki had decimated. …Vaporised in fact , with all those dead.

    Less than fifteen years later the Beatles began their world shattering musical and social revolution in a small seedy club in Hamburg, Germany…….Fifteen years after all that slaughter they were playing in a German club.

    Here we are . a little piss-ant corner of a tiny country right at the very edge of europe…. a similar span of , fifteen years after signing up to an agreement of reconciliation between our bickering tribes and we can’t rise above any of our pasts..

  2. neill April 7, 2014 at 9:08 am #

    Perhaps Jude Unionists simply dont believe Republicans are being sincere?

    • Ceannaire April 7, 2014 at 1:02 pm #

      Neill, with all sincerity, perhaps Unionists should start believing that Republicans are sincere.

  3. Cal April 7, 2014 at 9:21 am #

    Listened Tommy Gorman on RTE Radio 1 this morning on way to work. Big mistake. Felt myself struggling to keep my breakfast down when a very sincere Tommy spoke of tomorrow’s visit as being an highly emotional occasion.

    I despair at Irish people who lick the arse of everything British, especially the free loaders in the house of Windsor.

    Sure go over, be polite and everything else, but, please leave the rhetorical bs at the door. Talk of final steps in Irish- Anglo relations while hundreds of thousands of Irish citizens are consigned to British rule doesn’t sit easily.

    A media black out for me over the next few days. I can’t stomach much more of this arse licking exercise.

  4. madadh mór April 7, 2014 at 10:22 am #

    Other countries who have suffered at each other’s hands in brutal wars have one thing going in their ‘favour’. Those conflicts ended decisively and the victors moved on. The defeated hadn’t really much choice. In the North, we still squabble while Big Daddy keeps the violence at an acceptable level and hopes the next generation will be more tractable.

  5. Brian Patterson April 7, 2014 at 1:03 pm #

    In the 1950’s and 60’s any Irish person (eg boxer,actor) who achieved anything worthwhile became British. However if they got into trouble) eg Richard Harris, they reverted to being Irish.
    Today the “south” wants to claim Heaney, Van Morrison Mary McAleese etc. the rest of us are “Northern Ireland” women or men according to RTE, Denis O’Brien etc.

    • MPG ..... April 7, 2014 at 1:31 pm #

      Too true in the main, of the establishment certainly but Séan Citizen would see it quite differently. Please don’t paint us all with the same brush.

    • paddykool April 7, 2014 at 3:02 pm #

      Brian :
      When anyone makes it in a good way and rises like cream to the top, everyone wants a little bit of that razzle -dazzle to rub off on them. That’s only human nature..Backing a winner and all that. The right horse or the right football team. It’s a curiosity for example that so many people here obsess about a variety of English football teams which represent various English cities and play with guys from all over the world. It’s not as if we “own” any of these heroes and each one is an individual even though the powers that be want to put them all in a wee box with a “celebrity” label on it. They don’t really have any connection to us when you think about it , but kids rush to buy the latest kit and football is discussed like a holy grail.

      They loved Georgie Best everywhere for his talent, his dark good looks, his Beatle haircut and sparkle, but not his alcoholism ..Van the Man is loved for his music now but i can remember pennies being thrown at him and his old band Them, when they appeared locally back in the 1960’s in a local hall.. Now of course they all want a piece of him and because he seems to enjoy living near Dublin , the locals there feel they own him.as a fellow Irishman…music doesn’t recognise imaginary land borders after all. We may love his music and want to feel we are part of what it represents… .but not Van’s apparent grumpiness…all heroes with feet of clay.

      We really have no idea who these people are but we like to “own” them if they come from somewhere near the place we live .Local football teams who are doing well suddenly gain a whole raft of fair -weather support , even from people who know nothing about the game.Various media commentators may have their little slips of the tongue or pen or may be biased about whether or not us northerners are really true Irishmen or maybe are some new hybrid ……..

      The bottom line ,of course is that we are all Irish if we are born on the island of Ireland. north or south , east or west… ..unless someone decides to rename it and call the place something else. !!

      • Jude Collins April 7, 2014 at 3:35 pm #

        Thanks for thoughtful comment, PK. I just heard Paddy Kielty (another PK) comment that “Irishmen are good at just two things – drink and gossip”. How wonderfully witty.

        • paddykool April 7, 2014 at 4:56 pm #

          The wee wasp!!

  6. Keith April 7, 2014 at 7:11 pm #

    Jude…you’ve become infected with the “sure its all over, where all good friends now” virus.

    Please remember you can speak out against Sinn Fein…unless of course you are a member of Sinn Fein. In which case everybody is expected to fall into line behind Adams like brain dead zombies.

    Some people would like some critical analysis from a republican perspective.

    • Argenta April 7, 2014 at 8:46 pm #

      Keith
      You may be waiting some time.Apart from a short lived ” recoiling ” in yesterday’s blog, Jude seems to be now back in line with S F orthodoxy!

    • Jude Collins April 7, 2014 at 9:32 pm #

      I think you’re confusing ‘criticial’ with ‘attack’. If what I write is too close to SF thinking for you then by all means read someone else who matches your thinking better – there are lots of them out there, as I’m sure you know. And btw, I’m not a member of any political party – never have been and probably never will be.

  7. giordanobruno April 7, 2014 at 8:54 pm #

    Jude
    I think this a logical step by SF since they accepted the de facto reality of Northern Ireland even though they can’t quite say it.
    Martin won’t be any less of a republican for shaking hands with the Queen.As I see it he is acknowledging her importance to others without compromising his own position.
    So well done really.
    It is your own acrobatics that are worth noting though.
    A bold and daring step when taken by SF has been labelled bowing and scraping, lickspittle simpering in the past when others did it.
    It does rather reinforce the point Keith is making that no act by SF will ever be criticised in these parts.

    • Argenta April 7, 2014 at 10:44 pm #

      Gio
      What’s the Groucho Marx line “These are my principles;if you don’t like them ,I’ve got other ones”!Your last three sentences really sum it up.

  8. paddykool April 7, 2014 at 10:28 pm #

    Accepting the reality of N . Ireland as is…that’s one thing…. Is it forever or can we change things… That’s politics. We can be critical of all our politicians. I like to judge them as individuals. I look at each one from whatever party and judge them by their skills. Most of them are cringeworthy. The thing is, I don’t have allegiance to a party . I want to see what best they can do for me …If they can progress our situation in any way. I like to see a bit of imagination and a bit of positive thinking.Mostly what we get is paranoia. Who can provide a bit of hope?

  9. shea April 8, 2014 at 12:44 am #

    other conflicts are settled though, one side won out, they are over. Did that happen in Ireland.

    Why would unionism move, they have always been happy at the status quo. when that line moves they follow it not direct it.

    personally think it would not be asking to much to consider how stuff like this goes down with republicans.

    The day RTE give SF an easy ride is the day they have been brought to heal and are doing what is expected of them. This is the 21st century. look at social media, facebook, blogs, twitter etc how often do comments from the audience dove tail with the main article. Usually they go off on a completely different tangent. People are not as spoon fed by the likes of RTE as i would have believed ten years, they can block out garbage and interpret information based on their own past experiences, thats very unique to each individual, has to be. The sticks won RTE and where are they now, if all of this is to win RTE then its a waste.

  10. madadh mór April 8, 2014 at 2:38 pm #

    I hope when Martin rises to his feet to toast her Britannic Majesty along with the rest of the Free Staters, hasbeens and wannabees, that he will remember and quote Heaney “Be advised, my passport’s green etc” and remember that 5000 English soldiers are still stationed on Irish soil. Civility be damned – we want our country.

    • Virginia April 8, 2014 at 9:54 pm #

      English, Scottish, Northern Irish and Welsh soldiers stationed at a military base, yes. …. The whole Ireland versus England mantra misses the fact that Scottish surnames and Calvinism are the foundation of Unionism. Is there a reason for this slap England around and leave Scotland blameless line of thought?