BRITAIN AND ME: IS IT ROGUE STATE ? by Anthony J Jordan

A former British Ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray described the UK as a “Rogue State and a danger in the world and a State prepared to go to war to make a few people wealthy”. He was speaking in the context of the invasion of Iraq and shortly before the Referendum on Scottish independence.

The Irish Free State- Ireland, over its first 50 years of independence has been a mendicant, going to London to seek better access to the UK market for Irish goods. One of the lessons of the first 50 years of independence was that, when you are small don’t find yourself in a room negotiating with a large nation on your own. Our negotiation table with the UK is reversed by Brexit.

It is commonplace for larger countries to feel able to bully their smaller neighbours with impunity. History is full of such examples with Russia and China currently acting thus. James Joyce wrote that colonising countries are rarely driven by purely Christian motives when they take over foreign shores. They despoil the country economically, divide the people and persecute their religion. The bully or the coloniser can be described as a ‘Rogue State’.  Many countries have acted as Rogue States in the past. Some which have such a history often yearn for such power again, as can be seen from their reluctance to abandon entirely their colonial past. They explain that they owe it to ‘their people’ who colonised and whose descendants remain living in those foreign places centuries later, still pledging allegiance to the ‘Mother Country’. Some of these latter countries are now long time democracies and pillars of international associations dedicated to the rule of law and justice. Yet if they feel discomforted in these roles they can be tempted to strike out on an individual path, they feel is their right and destiny. The U.K. has fought a vicious thirty year guerrilla war in Ireland to maintain its power in a sectarian provincial corner of Ireland. It bolsters the economy there with billions of pounds annually.

In 1609, Protestant Scottish and English settlers were given land confiscated from the native Irish in the Plantation of Ulster.

Britain travelled thousands of miles in 1982 to reconquer Falklands-Malvinas from the Argentinians. They have been a British Crown Colony since 1841.  Despite its defeat, Argentina still claims the Falklands and South Georgia.  Britain suffered 258 killed and 777 wounded. Argentina lost 649 killed, 1,068 wounded, with thousands becoming prisoners of war.

Britain retains control of Gibraltar in defiance of Spain. Gibraltar, on the southernmost tip of the Iberian Peninsula has been a British Overseas Territory since 1713. Spain has laid siege to it in 1727 and 1779-1783. The reclamation of the territory by peaceful means remains Spanish policy. Britain asserts the power to deny the people of Scotland their right to self-determination. The UK retains fourteen overseas territories; some of these places are involved in dubious international financial tax havens.

The most recent example of the UK’s disdain for its neighbours was the Brexit campaign, which among other issues ignored the potential reopening of scarcely healed war-wounds along the border of the sectarian based Northern Ireland statelet. Yet because the UK remains a powerful country, those countries which are most affected by its continued colonisations must remain subservient. Western media have no hesitation in dubbing Russia and China examples of the ‘might is right’ philosophy, but hesitate to pronounce on the ‘Rogue State’ within their midst.

 

17 Responses to  BRITAIN AND ME: IS IT ROGUE STATE ? by Anthony J Jordan

  1. Bridget Cairns February 23, 2017 at 10:48 am #

    could not agree more Anthony, well said

  2. Jim Neeson February 23, 2017 at 11:09 am #

    Well Said!!!

  3. billy February 23, 2017 at 11:11 am #

    we all know englands history around the world.but bringing people into it for protecting their borders is a completely different subject,it was the majority who decided brexit to save their and their childrens future from the ravages of the open door for all policy.

    • Gearóid February 23, 2017 at 11:15 am #

      Not in the North Of Ireland Jim!

  4. Gearóid February 23, 2017 at 11:18 am #

    That should read, ‘not in the birth of Ireland Billy’

    • billy February 23, 2017 at 11:25 am #

      eh.

  5. Oz 2015 February 23, 2017 at 12:04 pm #

    AH Las Malvinas.
    I wonder how many of our brave Red, white and Blue readers know of the allegations of cutting off ears of dead Argentian soldiers?
    The same brave soldiers who walked Ulcer Streets?
    http://articles.latimes.com/1993-12-31/news/mn-7155_1_falklands-war

    I wonder what they think of Thatcher’s Boys and the Belgrano which had orders to return to port.. Orders intercepted by the British?
    How do our Red, white and Blue Moral Guardians sleep at night??

    A quick read of the LA times article will see all the same familiar faces spouting out all the same familiar lines..
    Altogether Now
    ” Nothing to see here”
    Says Farrah Hockey and The British apolgist Max Hastings.
    No nothing to see when you got a big carpet to sweep all the ooze underneath,.
    Plummy accents hide major Crimes.

    Brits Out.

    On a further note.
    I once read of an account of a Royal Marine Recruit who joined the British Marines after the Malvinas Operation.
    He went through basic training and he served with veterans who returned home.
    He said he socalised with these veterans and they were drinking each others urine from Pint Glasses.
    Quite clearly.. These people were mad…quite seriously damaged individuals.
    PTSD.
    There is nothing whatsoever to be Red, white and Blue proud of.

    The below story happened in 2014
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3593452/Three-Royal-Marines-military-detention-making-young-recruit-drink-paddling-pool-urine-vomit-initiation-ceremony.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490

    As you can see.
    There’s something not quite right about these brits.
    Not right at all.

  6. Jude Collins February 23, 2017 at 12:40 pm #

    Outstanding blog. Maith thú, Anthony!

  7. MT February 23, 2017 at 12:58 pm #

    A shocking disregard for self-determination in this blog. But hardly surprising for an extreme nationalist.

    • Oz 2015 February 23, 2017 at 9:34 pm #

      A shocking disregard for self-determination in this blog. But hardly surprising for an extreme nationalist.
      =============================================

      Tell me…What Regard did Britain have when they sold Argentina Type 42 Destroyers??

      Nothing like Regard when the opportunity for an Arms sale, Eh?
      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-ready-to-sell-aircraft-to-junta-just-days-before-falklands-attack-8604088.html

      It’s no wonder you’re shocked Mt.
      You are completely unaware …Aren’t you???
      It’s easy to have opinions when you don’t know the facts.
      I feel some of that Unionist “outrage” again.

  8. Willie D. February 23, 2017 at 4:34 pm #

    Nobody would condone misbehaviour by the troops of any state whether in the Malvinas/Falklands, or anywhere else. But the support of Irish Nationalists/Republicans for the Argentinians in the latter conflict is baffling. The inhabitants of those islands clearly wished to maintain their adherence to the U.K. and had never expressed a desire to be subsumed into Argentina, which at the time of the war was run by a semi-fascist military dictatorship, which had “disappeared” tens of thousands of its own citizens. They obviously hoped a “short victorious war” would whip up nationalist fervour and deflect the attention of their people and the world from their own misrule. But I suppose the Irish nationalist argument would be that your enemy’s enemy, no matter how vile, is your friend and that the right to self-determination is not absolute and does not extend to a group of remote islands in the South Atlantic

    • Oz 2015 February 23, 2017 at 9:23 pm #

      “………..But the support of Irish Nationalists/Republicans for the Argentinians in the latter conflict is baffling………”
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      Shure Willie whatever your having yourself.
      Although was it a case of the British “forgetting” about those ““disappeared” tens of thousands of its own citizens”
      When they sold Argentina Two Type 42 destroyers and according to this article had
      many more deals including a whole Aircraft carrier.???
      Did you forget about that Willie?

      But you pay no need to that British arms sale.
      What you need to be worrying about is Irish “nationalists… Booo …hisss,.

      BTW as for Irish support for Argentina.
      Google Admiral Brown
      And Oh Yeah Argentina was one of the first Country to recognise the Irish Independence

      And do please read this.
      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-ready-to-sell-aircraft-to-junta-just-days-before-falklands-attack-8604088.html

  9. seamus mallon February 24, 2017 at 2:58 pm #

    Britain never had any qualms about supporting semi facist regimes look at thatchers support for pinochet.

  10. Willie D. February 25, 2017 at 3:46 pm #

    In response to OZ 2015, you didn’t deal with the simple point I was making. Why did Irish Republicans row in so quickly to support Argentina’s invasion of the Falklands, given the nature of the military junta and the fact that the islanders had clearly expressed a desire to remain attached to the U.K. ? My analysis would be that, as they regard Britain as the “Great Satan,” anti-Britishness is their default position, no matter what the merits of the situation.
    You followed two threads. The first was that Ireland supported Argentina’s fight for independence from Spain and that an Irishman (Brown) was involved in that fight. This would imply that because of this historical connection Ireland and the Irish should take the side of Argentina in subsequent conflicts, irrespective of the nature of the Argentinian government, or its actions. This is a bit like saying that because many Irish people supported the American revolution, in later years we should support subsequent American governments no matter what they do, e.g. the Vietnam War, the invasion of Grenada.
    The other thread related to British arms sales to the Argentinian junta. Like you I deplore this, and Thatcher’s courting of Pinochet in Chile. Unlike you, while condemning this, I can also commend the U.K. government for not compounding this wrong by committing another and abandoning the Falklands. They were wrong to supply arms to the regime, right to defend the islanders oft expressed wishes not to be part of Argentina. You appear to deplore the Argentinian regime, but support its right to subvert the wishes of the islanders.

    • Wolfe tone February 25, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

      “You appear to deplore the Argentinian regime, but support its right to subvert the wishes of the islanders.”

      Islanders? Planters, surely?

    • Oz 2015 February 25, 2017 at 4:11 pm #

      Willie D.
      The point I was making about arm sales was in fact a direct response to your question.
      And that point was/is. How Can I possibly worry about anything the Irish were/are doing when the Irish “support” was intanginable compared to the British tangable bombs and bullets?

      What upsets you so much about so called “Irish Support” that warrants your concern?
      Surely you should be aware that no Single Britain lost their life due to “irish support”
      in Las Malvinas.
      whereas Can you say that about Canberra Bombers?? And Helicopters that dropped Pregnant women out of?
      Does it not concern you that the vast addiction of British arms sales resulted in those weapons been pointed and fired at the English themselves.
      And this is not limited to the Malvinas.
      Oh no.
      The Iraqs had British weapons too.
      But I am baffled by what it is that “irks” you about little auld Ireland. A country with no real dedicated arms industry.
      Why bother with Ireland when the Brits are busy selling weapons that are more often than not used against the very same britons?
      In a nutshell.
      The situation we have here is quite well covered by the ” Why bother about the splinter in my eye when the plank in yours goes unremarked upon.
      Not to mention that the aim of Operation corporate had got zero to do with the residents of that island and had everything to do with getting Thatcher relected.
      the 1979 election of Thatcher. Very quickly turned sour.
      Resulting in her firing the Torpedos that sunk the Belgrano and the ” Falklands Factor” sweeping her on a tide to victory in the next election.
      The arms sales which you condemn are part of this moral bankruptcy at work here.
      And they go hand in hand.
      Sell arms to an enemy one day..Get your own soldiers killed by said weapons…Sweep to election victory the following years.
      Revolting stuff.

      • MT February 25, 2017 at 6:49 pm #

        Are you aguing that people.lose their right to self-determination if their government sells arms?

        Or that countries are entitled to invade other countries if they buy arms from.that country?