no surprises there, I guess Ruth feels much better for getting that all of her chest and I particularly liked the “Londonderry” bit.
The answer to her vitriol lies in the massive crowds of ordinary people who came to say Slan Martin……………
There is a word “thran” and it means obstinate and deliberately awkward and I don’t know if it fairly represents Mrs RUth Dudly Edwards because her comments would seem to be more deliberately antagonistic and pointedly hurtful to the feelings of ordinary Irish or Nationalists.
She was on Nolan on Wednesday along with Patricia McBride who had just describe the context for which Martin McGuinness began his Republican Journey. Patricia describing the poverty, gerrymandering and discrimination faced by Nationalists in general and the People of the Bogside in particular.
Ruth dismissed the Patricia’s accounts of discrimination of Catholics as being irrelevant because “there was discrimination against women at that time”. People with a logical perspective on life would be reaching for the smelling salts and I am sure any genuine Historian would be duty bound to ask what credibility could be given to any paper/ document which could be authored by someone who could reach such illogical conclusions.
Ruth backed up her story by complaining that she was turned down for a job in the early seventies because she was a woman but for the life of me I can’t understand what she is complaining about because there were people out there at that time being refused jobs because they were black.
I would have read her daily mail article a few years ago, and barely questioned it. However ,since then ,my eyes have been opened by knowledge of the Curragh mutiny and the continued monstrous loyalist sectarian violence that ensued in the twentieth and twenty first century. What would this woman write about” steakknife ‘ or the Catholic romper rooms? She writes in an absence of balance and proportion which is not journalism, in my view. I would have liked to have shaken Mr McGuiness’s hand for his brave steadfast and committed work during the era of the peace process a legacy which we now all hope to carry on. unplagued by biased agenda-laden commentaries.Peace.
Just what is it about the British Imperial Mind, Esteemed Blogmeister, and the number 28?
The B.I.M., simiultaneously, seems to be both attracted to and repelled by this double digit number.
The B.I.M. B. O. (B.O. in this instance stands for Bean Ollamh – Woman Prof) , known and revered the w.w.w. over as Ruth Dudley Edwards aka The Cuddly One, is no exception.
For example:
28: the number of member states of the E.U. Or, was: till the last in the class (United Kingdom) decided to be the first to opt out .
This is the number which put the Hiss- into the Hiss-torian known as the B.I.M.B.O. (see above.).
28: in neo-Nazi circles it stands for ‘Blood und Honour’ on the basis that B is the second letter (2) in der alphabet while H, of course, is the eight (8) in ditto.
Mention of thngs Teutonic enables one to sneakily segue to the current Hausfrau who sits upon the Throne in the Bathroom of Schloss Buckingham. Piles of dosh, it is said, is particularly prone to the Law of Unintended Consequences.
28: the number of wars over which the same Hausfrau, aka, Posh und Brexit, in her capacity as the Commander-in-Chief of the British Armed Forces (B.A.F.) ever since she answered the call to Serve while staying in the Treetops Hotel in the Aberdare (!) National Park, Kenya.
This was in 1952 and on hearing the sad news of the passing of The Pater, underwent her first known shape shift in public.
To wit, she had been staying in the high-rise hotel as a culture vutlure before, erm, flying home.
Outrageously, the local terrorists, the Mau Mau, got up to black mischeif two years later and burned down the same Treetops Hotel duirng the fourth of the 28 Waus, oops, Wars (see above) the Hausfrau has overseen.
28: the common name given to the parrot, Barandius Zonarius Semitorqatius, found in both Western and Southern Australia: this is because its call sounds remarkably like ‘wenniate’. Which in turns sounds remarkably not at all unlike the call-sign of the B.I.M.B.O. (see above ) which in turn parrots the call sign of the diesel-sucking Cecil Rhodes.
28: the atomic mass (and not many people know this) of, erm, silicon.
Mention of silicon enables one to (gulp) seamllessly seque to the eponymous Valley in California where little ole’ wine-drinking louche Deano the Divine prayed they would grow more grapes so they could make more wine.
Right now, The Perkin is praying that the global warming will warm up to such an extent they can grow more pines in the tundra of wondrous Siberia. So they can produce more newprint in preparation for the sad day – may it be ever so very, very far away ! – when the Hausfrau shapes her final shift for the most definitive time.
For then, even the Daily Mail itself will be less than adeqate when the funeral cortege proceeds at snail’s pace through the solemn streets of London-less-Derry and so, unable to do full justice to the B.I.M.B.O.’s exhaustive detailing of the named-and-blameless exploits of the Hausfrau’s Flawless.
If this ‘historian’ is responsible for drawing up the ‘charge-sheet’ in the article, could she not even use an internet search engine to discover how many Irish men died in Long Kesh during the 1981 Hunger Strike?
Yeah, Mark, unlike you, RDE appears to know a bit about PIRA hunger strikers who died.
I’m guessing here, but I’d say Michael Gaughan and Frank Stagg plus the 7 in the Maze would bring the total to nine.
I think Kevin who died in the Maze may have been an “Erp” too, but don’t quote me on that.
Mark,
She didn’t say 9 IRA prisoners died during the 1981 hunger strike. That would be as inaccurate as saying 10 died.
Fortunately I used an internet search engine for that.
It used to be a wise saying: ‘Never speak ill of the dead’.
But that wisdom was thrown out the window during this week’s recollections of the life of Martin McGuinness.
I don’t think he was ever convicted of any murders or bombings, but according to the media, especially the BBC, by implication, he was guilty of every atrocity committed by the Provos, the British army, the RUC and loyalist paramilitaries.
David Ervine, the former UVF man who had been convicted of two murders, never had any of the manure thrown over him, as has had Martin McGuinness.
The denigrators and naysayers seemed to be queuing up to blacken his name, safe in the knowledge that dead men cannot sue, and no doubt they will gladly pocket their thirty dirty pieces of silver earned in such an ugly way.
We are told that bodies like the BBC are supposed to be impartial – but on their bile-filled performance, I would, for the first time in my life, agree with Sammy Wilson and totally remove the radio/tv licence money from them – they do not serve the community in any way fairly!
In fairness to Ruth she didn’t hold back after the death of Ian Paisley either. The integrity of our conflict doesn’t impress those looking in and maybe we should wake up and stop being so self obsessed.
Arlene’s applause was mostly from non republicans inside the church.I doubt had she mingled with the tens of thousands out on the street ,she would have received a somewhat different response!
and yesterday the Irish Daily Mail brought us that excellent piece by Nell…
Yep, Sammy. Had meant to put both up same day but events overtook. Nell’s was ‘Irish Daily Mail; and this was the, um, other island Daily Mail.
What a consistently horrid, detestable woman. I wouldn’t dignify her status by calling her a historian or commenting any further.
She is not a historian. She is a self professed historian…some difference.
no surprises there, I guess Ruth feels much better for getting that all of her chest and I particularly liked the “Londonderry” bit.
The answer to her vitriol lies in the massive crowds of ordinary people who came to say Slan Martin……………
Age doesn’t always bring wisdom or a sense of perspective. Ruth like Gregory, will die a very bitter person.
There is a word “thran” and it means obstinate and deliberately awkward and I don’t know if it fairly represents Mrs RUth Dudly Edwards because her comments would seem to be more deliberately antagonistic and pointedly hurtful to the feelings of ordinary Irish or Nationalists.
She was on Nolan on Wednesday along with Patricia McBride who had just describe the context for which Martin McGuinness began his Republican Journey. Patricia describing the poverty, gerrymandering and discrimination faced by Nationalists in general and the People of the Bogside in particular.
Ruth dismissed the Patricia’s accounts of discrimination of Catholics as being irrelevant because “there was discrimination against women at that time”. People with a logical perspective on life would be reaching for the smelling salts and I am sure any genuine Historian would be duty bound to ask what credibility could be given to any paper/ document which could be authored by someone who could reach such illogical conclusions.
Ruth backed up her story by complaining that she was turned down for a job in the early seventies because she was a woman but for the life of me I can’t understand what she is complaining about because there were people out there at that time being refused jobs because they were black.
I would have read her daily mail article a few years ago, and barely questioned it. However ,since then ,my eyes have been opened by knowledge of the Curragh mutiny and the continued monstrous loyalist sectarian violence that ensued in the twentieth and twenty first century. What would this woman write about” steakknife ‘ or the Catholic romper rooms? She writes in an absence of balance and proportion which is not journalism, in my view. I would have liked to have shaken Mr McGuiness’s hand for his brave steadfast and committed work during the era of the peace process a legacy which we now all hope to carry on. unplagued by biased agenda-laden commentaries.Peace.
Just what is it about the British Imperial Mind, Esteemed Blogmeister, and the number 28?
The B.I.M., simiultaneously, seems to be both attracted to and repelled by this double digit number.
The B.I.M. B. O. (B.O. in this instance stands for Bean Ollamh – Woman Prof) , known and revered the w.w.w. over as Ruth Dudley Edwards aka The Cuddly One, is no exception.
For example:
28: the number of member states of the E.U. Or, was: till the last in the class (United Kingdom) decided to be the first to opt out .
This is the number which put the Hiss- into the Hiss-torian known as the B.I.M.B.O. (see above.).
28: in neo-Nazi circles it stands for ‘Blood und Honour’ on the basis that B is the second letter (2) in der alphabet while H, of course, is the eight (8) in ditto.
Mention of thngs Teutonic enables one to sneakily segue to the current Hausfrau who sits upon the Throne in the Bathroom of Schloss Buckingham. Piles of dosh, it is said, is particularly prone to the Law of Unintended Consequences.
28: the number of wars over which the same Hausfrau, aka, Posh und Brexit, in her capacity as the Commander-in-Chief of the British Armed Forces (B.A.F.) ever since she answered the call to Serve while staying in the Treetops Hotel in the Aberdare (!) National Park, Kenya.
This was in 1952 and on hearing the sad news of the passing of The Pater, underwent her first known shape shift in public.
To wit, she had been staying in the high-rise hotel as a culture vutlure before, erm, flying home.
Outrageously, the local terrorists, the Mau Mau, got up to black mischeif two years later and burned down the same Treetops Hotel duirng the fourth of the 28 Waus, oops, Wars (see above) the Hausfrau has overseen.
28: the common name given to the parrot, Barandius Zonarius Semitorqatius, found in both Western and Southern Australia: this is because its call sounds remarkably like ‘wenniate’. Which in turns sounds remarkably not at all unlike the call-sign of the B.I.M.B.O. (see above ) which in turn parrots the call sign of the diesel-sucking Cecil Rhodes.
28: the atomic mass (and not many people know this) of, erm, silicon.
Mention of silicon enables one to (gulp) seamllessly seque to the eponymous Valley in California where little ole’ wine-drinking louche Deano the Divine prayed they would grow more grapes so they could make more wine.
Right now, The Perkin is praying that the global warming will warm up to such an extent they can grow more pines in the tundra of wondrous Siberia. So they can produce more newprint in preparation for the sad day – may it be ever so very, very far away ! – when the Hausfrau shapes her final shift for the most definitive time.
For then, even the Daily Mail itself will be less than adeqate when the funeral cortege proceeds at snail’s pace through the solemn streets of London-less-Derry and so, unable to do full justice to the B.I.M.B.O.’s exhaustive detailing of the named-and-blameless exploits of the Hausfrau’s Flawless.
The Annual Mail, anyone?
The Daily Mail. The paper that supported Hitler and Mussolini. A nice little earner for Ms. Dudley Edwards O’Callaghan
For reurgitating endlessly the same bitter bile.
If this ‘historian’ is responsible for drawing up the ‘charge-sheet’ in the article, could she not even use an internet search engine to discover how many Irish men died in Long Kesh during the 1981 Hunger Strike?
Where they all PIRA?
Good point Dominic, Patsy and Mickey were Derry Erp’s
Yeah, Mark, unlike you, RDE appears to know a bit about PIRA hunger strikers who died.
I’m guessing here, but I’d say Michael Gaughan and Frank Stagg plus the 7 in the Maze would bring the total to nine.
I think Kevin who died in the Maze may have been an “Erp” too, but don’t quote me on that.
Kevin lynch too
Mark,
She didn’t say 9 IRA prisoners died during the 1981 hunger strike. That would be as inaccurate as saying 10 died.
Fortunately I used an internet search engine for that.
Don’t know under which blog to stick this, but it’s well worth a read and likely to be of interest to readers here.
‘Facts: An Obituary’ from Twitter user @hiredknave
https://medium.com/@hiredknave/facts-an-obituary-f1c0d76f1cb3#.c1729svk2
It used to be a wise saying: ‘Never speak ill of the dead’.
But that wisdom was thrown out the window during this week’s recollections of the life of Martin McGuinness.
I don’t think he was ever convicted of any murders or bombings, but according to the media, especially the BBC, by implication, he was guilty of every atrocity committed by the Provos, the British army, the RUC and loyalist paramilitaries.
David Ervine, the former UVF man who had been convicted of two murders, never had any of the manure thrown over him, as has had Martin McGuinness.
The denigrators and naysayers seemed to be queuing up to blacken his name, safe in the knowledge that dead men cannot sue, and no doubt they will gladly pocket their thirty dirty pieces of silver earned in such an ugly way.
We are told that bodies like the BBC are supposed to be impartial – but on their bile-filled performance, I would, for the first time in my life, agree with Sammy Wilson and totally remove the radio/tv licence money from them – they do not serve the community in any way fairly!
In fairness to Ruth she didn’t hold back after the death of Ian Paisley either. The integrity of our conflict doesn’t impress those looking in and maybe we should wake up and stop being so self obsessed.
On the money, Ruth, as ever. Our private correspondence regarding certain commentators is highly amusing….and revealing!
It’s a pity people at Martin McGuinness’ funeral didn’t clap and look for selfies with Mike Nesbitt. Arlene will bank it with no return.
Arlene’s applause was mostly from non republicans inside the church.I doubt had she mingled with the tens of thousands out on the street ,she would have received a somewhat different response!