On being the meat in a Bertie-Ian sandwich

I was on BBC Radio 4’s The World At One today and I feel like curling into a foetal position and weeping.

The other contributors were Bertie Ahern (proof positive that there is life after death) and Ian Paisley. I caught just a bit of what Bertie had to say: it appeared mainly to consist  of soothing murmurs and modest stammers as he said, effectively, sure lookit, the whole thing  could all be tied up by Easter.

I was next (no discussion between the three participants permitted). I did what I could to emphasise that the talks had been given a three-week life, they’d been interrupted by (i) St Patrick’s Day holiday; (ii) the death and funeral of Martin McGuinness; and (iii) the fact that the DUP never do politics on a Sunday. So a narrow period of time became even narrower.

I tried to focus on the importance of addressing the legacy issues, and how they involved dozens of disputed cases, many decades old, of people who had never had an inquest. I pointed out that one of the difficulties in resolving this knotty problem was that some unionist politicians, and Conservative politicians, and the British Prime Minister, had claimed that there was excessive focus on  ‘security’ force involvement in killings,  whereas 90% of the killings had been the work of the IRA. This of course is, what shall I say – I know – a lie. The PSNI have released figures showing that around 30% of cases involve the ‘security’ forces and there are charges of said ‘security’ forces, at the time,  releasing deliberate misinformation about bombings, for example, claiming they were the work of the IRA when they weren’t;  charges of state collusion in the killing of innocent people; charges of inept police investigation of cases; charges of a shoot-to-kill policy when IRA members could have been arrested.

In response, the presenter asked me not a single question, even though (or because?) I’d indicated that the PM among others had made, um, misleading statements about ‘security’ forces and the extent to which they were involved in legacy cases.

Then Ian Paisley came on, and if he said ‘Gerry Adams’ once he said it five times (has Arlene been coaching him?). The talks, apparently, could easily be resolved, and Bertie A was right to say, oh, two and a half weeks, but it would all depend on Gerry Adams, would Gerry Adams Gerry Adams Gerry Adams have the right stuff to really engage in discussion and compromise?

There are four things I’d say about IP’s contribution:

  • He is cementing what is obviously now DUP policy: put all the emphasis on   Big Bad Gerry. The fact that Michelle O’Neill is now the Sinn Féin leader in the north is unsatisfactory, since she can only be linked to the IRA by way of her attendance at commemoration ceremonies for IRA volunteers, which really isn’t  good/bad enough. Besides which, mental images of Arlene v Gerry sit much more comfortably with unionists than Arlene v Michelle.
  • I’d agree with Bertie that a time-limit should be put on talks (nothing concentrates the mind like the prospect of a guillotine), but the idea that they could be wrapped up in two-and-a-half-weeks is laughable. I mean, is the DUP going to accede to the request of the Lord Chief Justice for funding to deal with legacy cases or not? The idea of compromising on that is absurd. And that’s just the funding. Will unionist politicians, conservative politicians and the British PM admit that the PSNI are dealing with 30% of cases involving ‘security’ forces, and that these cases involve an appalling vista: state forces killing citizens and/or arranging for the killing of citizens in collusion with loyalist gangs. Maybe the DUP and the British government will agree to such investigation, following the bloody trail of command however high it may go. But I can’t see it in two-and-a-half weeks or even two-and-a-half years.
  • There has to be a complete turnaround of unionist politicians’ attitude to those with opposed political views. That’s necessary if the various things signed up to in the various agreements are to be implemented, and there would need to be a timetable for the implementation of these matters. When the interviewer on The World At One pointed out that Wales and Scotland had Language Acts, so why not Northern Ireland, Ian side-stepped and spoke of how much money was spent on the Irish language. That’s great, Ian. Now would you be good enough to answer the question?
  • If you thought a while back that Ian Paisley might be the de Klerk figure that unionism sorely needs, forget it. Ian Paisley may have his eye on Arlene’s job but he’s no de Klerk. Au contraire.

 

So I came out of the BBC building, not for the first time, feeling something between depression and fury. Radio is like statistics : interesting in what it covers, shocking in what it doesn’t cover. If the English people are taking their picture of what is happening here from The World At One, then superficial doesn’t begin to describe the picture they’re getting.

These talks require a resetting of the entire unionist approach to agreement and reconciliation. If unionist politicians persist in silly stuff like Ian Paisley’s focus on Gerry Adams rather than a fundamental change in attitude to resolving the problems that should concern us all, I  see no prospect of progress.

One thing Sinn Féin must not do, for everyone’s sake, not least their own, is allow the DUP to pressure them into the same-old same-old not-an-inch Stormont rut. Anything would be preferable to that.

11 Responses to On being the meat in a Bertie-Ian sandwich

  1. Sammy McNally March 27, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

    Just listened back to it. Martha Kearney was not up to speed with the subject – easily sidetracked by Ian Jnr – she should have foillow up questions for his obvious answers.

    usual blather from Berty…

    And you did get to tell everyone listening that there were 2 sides to the legacy story and the British 1 is the only 1 they are being fed.

    someone had to tell them….

  2. giordanobruno March 27, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

    Jude
    Since the election we have seen Gerry Adams frequently take front and centre stage.
    It is hardly surprising Unionists see him as the man in charge.

    • fiosrach March 27, 2017 at 4:48 pm #

      What does it matter who is in charge? Do we try to tell the DUP who is in charge? What is Nigel Dodds doing perched like a Raven on Arlene’s shoulder? He isn’t an MLA.

      • Mark March 27, 2017 at 5:06 pm #

        More like a crow, waiting to pick the carcass.

      • giordanobruno March 27, 2017 at 10:26 pm #

        fiosrach
        Gerry isn’t an MLA either.
        But Jude complained of theDUP outting the emphasis on Gerry. I am just pointing out that it is hardly surprising when he has turned the spotlight on himself.
        What was all that arm round Bill Clinton business about?

    • Ryan March 27, 2017 at 7:27 pm #

      “Since the election we have seen Gerry Adams frequently take front and centre stage.
      It is hardly surprising Unionists see him as the man in charge”

      Gio, the obsession with Adams only took shape with the DUP when Michelle O’Neill became SF leader in the North. The UUP and most other Unionists didn’t have this same obsession of using Adams as the bogeyman. Paisley Jnr must have a short memory because he was the first after the election results to condemn this focus on Adams because it simply didn’t work for the DUP like it did in the past, indeed he said it got the Republican vote out. But yet here he is on radio contradicting himself and constantly bringing up Gerry Adams, despite Adams being a TD in the Dail, not the leader of SF in the North.

      So its wrong to say all Unionists see Gerry as the man in charge in this present crisis. DUP Unionists maybe but again they’re trying to use the worn out “bogeyman of Sinn Fein” to spook Unionists into voting DUP. I’m sure it will be as successful as it was in the last election….

  3. Mark March 27, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

    Agree absolutely with your final paragraph, spinning tat from Dún Dónaill is equally reprehensible, to those of us who voted for change, in 1998.
    I have previously had little time for Sinn Féin, whom I saw as deserting the legacy of the brave women and men who fought for our freedom (over centuries), I have, now, a new found respect, I hope they continue to resist the pressure to give the brit’s a significant saving on direct rule ’til the cause of the problem is gone home to Fermanagh.
    On the BBC, the occupied six has obtained significant coverage on it’s main news channel over the weekend, problem is, they’re getting only half truths, earlier one correspondent in reporting about failings to institute the legislation to put the First National Language on some par with the Second National Language wholly forgot to mention this had been reneged upon by the Unionist’s and the co-guarantor’s, it’s all the Fenian’s fault it seems.

  4. fiosrach March 27, 2017 at 5:17 pm #

    £80,000 per day! How many days have passed now? How many days yet to come? And the unionists have no appetite for spending money on an Irish Language Act. The comic double act of Dodds and Poots have absolutely no problem if people want to learn or speak Irish-as long as it doesn’t make it appear to the outside world that Irish people live in their wee country. Let them just be aware. No Gaeilge – no government.

  5. TheHist March 27, 2017 at 6:47 pm #

    Gerry Adams in a statement yesterday stated Unionism was at a “crossroads” – I disagree with him. Unionism doesn’t do crossroads. If anything, Unionism is in a cul da sac. With their present position they are continuing to drive themselves into a corner with nowhere else to go. They are unwilling to change direction and embrace the open road.

    We are long accustomed to DUP startegy – they blame the person who will resonate well within their electorate. You target the arch enemy. Adams is the bogeyman and you’d think after Foster’s pre election character assassination of Adams and its consequences, they would re evaluate their tactical inabilities. If a tactic doesn’t work, surely the sensible thing to do is to stop using it. Instead of them playing the man, perhaps they should play politics – but we’ve seen how bad they are at that. I had been an open critique of Adams and SF, but Foster’s pre election ignorance has completely shifted my thinking.

  6. Ryan March 27, 2017 at 7:19 pm #

    Its unbelievable how the British Government and Unionism is so openly trying to obstruct Truth and Justice for victims families, whether by deliberately withholding information or deliberately underfunding investigations or putting ex-RUC in charge of investigations. All this is being done openly and the media here say nothing about all this. Indeed the media here are in cahoots and constantly back a Unionist/British stance.

    There’s a reason why Unionism says: “there will be no rewriting of the past”, its because they are terrified of the Truth being revealed and their narrative being utterly discredited, which it already largely has been due to the extent of collusion, and that’s just what we know from the documents/files that’s available. God knows what full disclosure of files would reveal but I think we can all easily guess and speculate what the British Government was doing during the Troubles and what they were trying to achieve. The Dublin/Monaghan Bombings wasn’t the only massacre the British State were deliberately involved in and executing.

  7. Cal March 27, 2017 at 9:43 pm #

    I find the coverage of these talks to be very misleading. Talk about two extremes is simply inaccurate.

    SF seek legal status for an indigenous language and marriage rights for gay people. How any journalist can classify these demands taken for granted throughout Britain and Ireland as extreme is beyond me.

    The DUP stand in the way of equality and need to called out on it by the media.