Well, who would have thunk it? Imagine a politician elbowing one person in the chest and telling another to “get the fuck out of the way” in the chamber of the legislative building. No, Virginia, I’m not talking about Colum Eastwood. I could never imagine Colum using language like that. Although who, before it happened, could have imagined squeaky-nice Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau using such a word? Or elbowing a woman in the chest?
Actually quite a few people, if they’d been following Canadian politics and the Trudeau dynasty over the decades. Justin a few years back referred to a political opponent as “a piece of shit”, and his father Pierre Trudeau, when Canadian prime minister, was famous for having used rude language in parliament, something he denied, claiming all he said was “Oh, fuddle-duddle!”. And Justin’s mom Margaret, when she split from Pierre and was cavorting with the Rolling Stones, was famous for telling an interviewer that she considered her greatest asset to be her ass. Shocking or what?
But not as shocking as Colum Eastwood’s daring leap over the precipice into Opposition. Was it something he made his mind up about after careful scrutiny of the programme for government? Or did Mike Nesbit tie a metaphorical rope to Colum’s ankle when he jumped a short while back? Tricky, really. Colum and his party couldn’t afford to be seen as tamely staying in the Executive and picking up the crumbs of power from the DUP and Sinn Féin. On the other hand leaping into league with the UUP lays him open to the charge of being the Alliance Party in thin disguise or even reviving the old Stormont, in which nationalists were permanently held at arm’s length from power.
Incidentally, few seem to care about the impact of all this on poor Jim Allister. Bad enough that McCann and Carroll look as if they are going to drive him into the rhetorical shade when it comes to lambasting the Executive. Now he must cope with the fact that never again can he complain about an absence of democracy in Stormont because there’s no Opposition.
However, back to Colum. Is his dramatic lep going to face him with the problem a dog faces when it chases a bus and catches it: what to do now?
I suppose he might say that going into Opposition frees him up to criticize those in government …No, wait a minute. Colum could and did do that repeatedly when he was still part of the Executive. So what is he going to do differently?
I had an exchange on Twitter recently with someone who clearly is an SDLP supporter. She told me that the difference between Sinn Féin and the SDLP came down to ‘decency’. Remember that word? And which party used it in an election campaign? Yep, it was the UUP. “Decent people vote for the UUP” the slogan went, as I remember. Which must mean there are a lot of indecent unionists running around, because the UUP vote sank yet again.
Probably the best thing for Colum and his party to do now is list the key areas where they are at sharp variance with the Executive ….No, let’s make it easier. List the three main areas in which his party differ from Sinn Féin. Apart from the decency thing (whatever that is).
We might start with hearing if the SDLP differ from Sinn Féin on the question of partition. There was a time in the early days when the SDLP used to pride itself on being focused solely on civil rights. But that time is past. Many if not all of the civil rights campaigned for have been granted. And whether you welcome it or detest it, the British exercise of jurisdiction over this part of Ireland is a pretty fundamental question. So maybe ‘fess up on that one, Colum.
Another area he might want to address would be education. Does his party favour, for example, academic selection? We know that Sinn Féin don’t. As the party whose members have perhaps gained most from the Eleven Plus, it’d be interesting to hear their present stance.
Then there’s health. That department is a massive mess: how would the SDLP clear up that mess? And how would their clearing up differ from that of the Shinners?
Finally, there’s the abortion question. Sinn Féin have said they believe in a woman’s right to choose abortion, should she wish, in cases of rape, fatal foetal abnormality or when there’s a serious risk to the mother’s health. Do the SDLP agree with that or have they another position?
I’m sure there are other issues where the SDLP offer a clearly different alternative to Sinn Féin but those few will do for now. Colum Eastwood is a squeaky-clean new leader of the SDLP. It’s past time for him, if not to start elbowing and swearing, to tell us what moral and political imperatives have driven him over the edge into Opposition, where he now stands shoulder to shoulder with Mike the mic.



The SDLP have possibly turned their backs on power forever. They had no other choice, they had to try something different. I suspect PBP will be the party making inroads on SF.
Big question for SF, will they continue to allow their electorate to be insulted by the DUP insistence that no shinner is good enough to hold the Justice Department ?
I’m hopeful that the new SDLP/UUP opposition will force the DUP/SF coalition to make the tough decisions that need to be made. They now have a spotlight on them and can no longer hide behind a system were all parties are forced into one government.
My major gripe with all the parties is the lack of clarity we get on there positions on issues. Non answers given on the radio or not wanting to give up there “red lines” is frustrating for a voter trying to make a informed choice
Scott, do you think the DUP now they are in a joint coalition with Sinn Fein should bite their tongues and allow the irish language act to be passed or is it worth the risk of damaging the new relationship and creating even more “red lines” that are so frustrating for a voter trying to make a informed choice?
I think any legislation that is passed will need the consent of both the DUP and SF in order to be made law. If one party blocks a piece of legislation that the other party feels strongly enough about then they would walk out and collapse the goverment and trigger elections. SF obviously don’t feel strongly enoughly about it to do that. DUP can stop any legislation they want since they do have the POC veto (which I totally disagree with but alas it is there). SF also have the right to try and stop any legislation they disagree and use any parliamentary powers within there means.
On the specifics of should the DUP block the Irish Language act, my honest answer is I don’t know enough about it. If anyone had a link to a draft text of the bill I would appreciate it.
“I think any legislation that is passed will need the consent of both the DUP and SF in order to be made law. If one party blocks a piece of legislation that the other party feels strongly enough about then they would walk out and collapse the government and trigger elections. SF obviously don’t feel strongly enough about it to do that.”
I am 100% in agreement with you here Scott.
You are a breath of fresh air from the usual unionist posters we get. Well, AG is also someone I find quite reasonable and likable.
gio is also a unionist, he just doesn’t know it.
Perhaps there hope for us after all?
“On the specifics of should the DUP block the Irish Language act, my honest answer is I don’t know enough about it. If anyone had a link to a draft text of the bill I would appreciate it.”
Embarrassingly as someone who supports it, I have to admit I don’t know the specifics about it at all.
It could therefore hardly be considered to have been properly discussed. Yet another serious flaw with Sinn Fein.
Perhaps we do need more young people like yourself and Ryan to get involved and point out the obvious to us old farts.
Jessica, the DUP already agreed to the Irish Language Act in, I believe, the St Andrews Agreement. Since then they have bluntly gone back on their word. They were even boasting this week of how they are stopping it. They have went back on their word on many other occasions too. They even tried to go back on the small token of a Sinn Fein speaker of the Assembly, which lasted like less than a year anyway. Is that really a Government worthy of being in?
Sinn Fein have carried on and tolerated all this nonsense. I think its time Republicans seriously question Sinn Fein’s current political path because I just cant help but get the feeling that SF aren’t as motivated in the North as they use to be nor as focused. I also don’t see the point in Stormont, to me the Shinners are promising the World but aren’t delivering and all Stormont is about is jobs for the boys, for both the Shinners and the Dupers.
Is it really any wonder Nationalists aren’t bothering to come out and vote? I’m not saying that cant be fixed but this current political set up isn’t delivering. Republicans didn’t go through the Troubles just so Martin could be Joint First Minister and act Mahatma Ghandi.
“Jessica, the DUP already agreed to the Irish Language Act in, I believe, the St Andrews Agreement.”
That’s right, I keep forgetting about that Ryan.
Perhaps it is time these private agreements stopped and the public knew exactly what was being agreed on their behalf.
I also heard the DUP say there will be no Irish bill.
Scott made a very good point on that though, what the hell is in the Irish bill?
I have no idea. What is it exactly that the DUP object to? I was just assuming it was the usual anti republicanism and it probably is, but can we really say that for sure?
Perhaps this should be taken out of the hands of our politicians and we started holding referendums on such matters.
Perhaps the continuous blocking to something agreed will be what eventually triggers the referendum and border poll.
“Is it really any wonder Nationalists aren’t bothering to come out and vote? I’m not saying that cant be fixed but this current political set up isn’t delivering. Republicans didn’t go through the Troubles just so Martin could be Joint First Minister and act Mahatma Ghandi.”
That is the sentiment I am hearing in my area which is north Armagh and among family and friends who are mostly long term Sinn Fein supporters. Except for my mum who would eat me if she knew I hadn’t voted.
There is a growing feeling of betrayal, not only from Sinn Fein but from the southern establishment who no one thinks either gives a damn about us but would rather pander to unionism.
Didn’t one of the SDLP guys not introduce sn Irish Language Bill a few years back?
When Madame Trudeau declared her best asset to be her ass, was she referring to that part of her anatomy, or just being rude about Petite Pierre?
As far as Colum and the SDLP are concerned, had they and the UUP jumped into opposition together things might have looked better for them.
But Mad Mike jumped first so he could get the headlines himself, then told the SDLP to follow him. So it looks like they had the decision forced on them, and they are now in the position of being a minority party in a minority opposition.
They are not in a comfortable position, and will struggle to look good for some time to come.
I heard the new leader of the Free State Labour party (not Alan Kelly)say today that Labour was the thinking persons party. Aren’t Labour the allies of the SDLP party in the Free state? Politics is a funny old business especially for thinking people.
You know , Jude …I was thinking the very same thing about Jim Allister myself. cold he now be irrelevant now that the old gong he’s been banging on for so long has been taken away. What’ll he do now to be heard ? He was on TV and I thought he seemed quiet and a mite deflated.
Nil desperandum, with the Social Democratic and Unionist Party in opposition, Peter Robinson and John Bruton now on the board of Co-Operation Ireland dedicated to all-island peace building and Mr Howlin acting in the national interest, things can only get…
There can be no clearer indication that this was a smart move by Eastwood than the rush by SF supporters to attack and deride him.
Couldn’t agree more,Gio.Why are Sinn Fein so uptight about the S D L P going into opposition ?After all they’re the dominant party in the Nationalist /Republican community following the election.Did S D L P membership of the Executive give cover to Sinn Fein?We look forward to seeing what “Marlene” can achieve in the coming months and years.
“Marlene”
Very good gio. I like it.
Just wait until they bring up the new taxes needed to pay for the deficit in the black grant or will this new abandonment be enough to persuade London to bail them out once again?
jessica
That was Argenta actually, although I think it may have been Jim Allister who coined it first.
Argenta/Jim Allister…hmm!
Argenta
Yes interesting times ahead.
It could potentially be disastrous for SDLP and/or UUP. or it just might shake up the cosy establishment duo to the benefit of all.
“It could potentially be disastrous for SDLP and/or UUP. or it just might shake up the cosy establishment duo to the benefit of all.”
Or bring the whole rotten shebang down.
Isn’t it ironic that the direct consequence of the DUPs monopoly of unionist votes to apparently keep Sinn Fein down, looks like it is going to result in Sinn Fein getting even more seats in the executive even though the nationalist turn out went down and the unionist turnout went up.
Now, that just has to be frustrating.
constructive opposition,colum has played his hand well here not a bit of wonder martin n arlene dont know what to do next.with them implementing the cuts to the poorest[voters]all he has to do is a few tv interviews exposing them,a harvest of votes to be had here for pbp aswell .now they need the seating arrangements in stormont sorted for full exposure.
Jude, the SDLP, Alliance, Greens, PBP and even a born again Jim could all support all your listed policies and stand foursquare behind SF and it would make no difference at all. So long as SF supports the abusive use of petitions of concern, the DUP, with 29% of the vote, dictates terms to the rest of us. You seem to be missing the whole point that the disenfranchised smaller parties are making.
I don’t fully understand this move by Eastwood. Yes I understand he’s trying to salvage a sinking ship but what does this mean for the political process? Is this a step towards majority rule returning here? God help us if it did ever return because we’ll be back in 1969 within a week or two. I understand it would take SF to commit to majority rule for that to happen but the SDLP (and UUP) are potentially putting Stormont at risk, according to some people I spoke to.
In many ways this could actually benefit Sinn Fein. Why vote for the SDLP who will always refuse to be in the Executive unless they have a substantial number of nationalist MLA’s, which they wont get? The same could be said of the UUP, in many ways now the DUP’s fear tactics can be accurately justified and isn’t just scaremongering. I can almost hear DUP politicians saying “Don’t vote for Nesbitt, he wont even be going into the Executive. Fewer MLA’s for the DUP makes SF stronger!”.
I think our politicians should be focusing more on tackling the low voter turn out at elections and the solution, in my opinion, is compulsory voting.
“Is this a step towards majority rule returning here? ”
It is already majority rule, with the additional requirement that it must be a mandatory coalition including 1 declared unionist party and 1 declared nationalist party.
Seems unfair to parties who don’t declare as either.
But then, I think every party should be to declare whether they prefer british rule or not. To they the have no opinion on it is hardly helping the public make an informed voting choice.
“I think our politicians should be focusing more on tackling the low voter turn out at elections and the solution, in my opinion, is compulsory voting”
Should the parties be forced to declare one way or another?
Another flaw in the GFA is the inclusion of both.
As long as that option remains, it is no more than a fudge.
“Is this a step towards majority rule returning here? God help us if it did ever return because we’ll be back in 1969 within a week or two. I understand it would take SF to commit to majority rule for that to happen but the SDLP (and UUP) are potentially putting Stormont at risk, according to some people I spoke to.”
Hahahahahaha
Are these the same people who told you the GFA would collapse of the UK left the EU?!
“Are these the same people who told you the GFA would collapse of the UK left the EU?!”
The GFA in my opinion has collapsed or is collapsing, but it depends on what you consider the GFA to be.
If it is nothing more than the principal of consent for a British withdrawal which is all that remains of it imo, then the only thing that could finish it off would be the refusal to allow the people to demonstrate that consent or failure to deliver on it.
However, if you consider there to be more to the GFA such as the agreement that NI is a divided society in which there are 2 main identities, Irish citizens who see Dublin as their capital wish for Irish unity and independence, but also British citizens who look to London as the over arching authority and want 6 counties to remain within the UK and that both identities should be equal with parity of esteem.
Unionism has never treated those aspects with any credibility and in fact publically disparage and mock the Irish identity still even though they are meant to be equal partners in government.
Other aspects include promoting reconciliation, truth and justice.
Britain still keeps evidence out of the courts on grounds of national security supported fully by unionism. Everyone knows collusion was rife in sections of the state forces. The MRF was a state unit but operated as a terrorist group committing murder and directing other loyalist groups to commit murder.
It was from this official state source that loyalists were instructed to kill innocent Catholics (deliberately innocent) to turn the catholic population against the IRA.
If the price for independence is for this to be swept under the carpet and all blame levied at republicans then I for one will not support Irish unity under these conditions and would rather we pursue the truth of British state atrocities and its true involvement in the conflict instead.
Can anyone point to a single solid achievement by SF since their accession to government? (This is not a rhetorical question) And does anyone believe the SDLP, or even PBP, could do any better?
“Can anyone point to a single solid achievement by SF since their accession to government? (This is not a rhetorical question) And does anyone believe the SDLP, or even PBP, could do any better?”
The SDLP like the UUP are reinventing themselves and until they do that or more likely disappear in the changing tide which is playing out here.
I listened to Gerry Caroll on the radio and he was totally unimpressive and had nothing to say so I am confident, communism has nothing to offer not even in opposition.
Eamon McCann is also a rant and raver but has no answers and nothing to offer. That will become clearer when he will have to stick around long enough and have to follow up on his have a go criticisms with anything proactive and positive. He has nothing to offer and that will become clear just as it will in the south for that party.
Is there a need to examine the roles of the various ‘actors’ on our political stage in the context of a single solid achievement. It could be argued that one achievement is the institutionalisation of sectarian divisions. The various suspensions of the Assembly has accelerated the erosion of the political middle ground. Who now represents citizens who choose to reject labels such as republican, loyalist, catholic or protestant ? The reality remains that sectarian divisions continue to dictate where people are born, where they are educated, to a certain extent where they work and where they are buried. At a time when we are told, “there is no more money…”, strident calls are being made to provide more resources for filibustering in a bloated Assembly. Some achievement.
“The various suspensions of the Assembly has accelerated the erosion of the political middle ground.”
I don’t believe there is a middle ground lolar.
We are a polarised society with sectarian divisions and the Assembly and unionism in particular has done nothing to change this.
Just look at the abuse of the veto over an Irish language act which is hardly going to threaten unionism
To treat us like we are anything else is part of the reason it is failing.
We have been left to sort it out among ourselves like locking naughty children in a room and asking them to make up.
“Who now represents citizens who choose to reject labels such as republican, loyalist, catholic or protestant? ”
Britain is a pluralist society as is ROI, both have a lot in common. There is very little in common in the north with GB or ROI other than we are in the UK or inhabit the same island.
Lets simplify things.
I detest these labels and see myself only as Irish. How well do you think the assembly represents Irish citizens who are one of the two national identities referenced in the GFA?
“The reality remains that sectarian divisions continue to dictate where people are born, where they are educated, to a certain extent where they work and where they are buried. At a time when we are told, “there is no more money…”, strident calls are being made to provide more resources for filibustering in a bloated Assembly. Some achievement.”
Indeed, the thoughts of many who no longer bother voting for it.
Jessica – if you want to see where the middle ground lies in the Assembly, look at who’s using petitions of concern to block simple majority decisions. It’s mostly the DUP. Which means the nationalist support for this device is damaging causes that nationalists support, including a language act, which parties like the Greens and Alliance support.
“Jessica – if you want to see where the middle ground lies in the Assembly, look at who’s using petitions of concern to block simple majority decisions.”
Abuse of veto’s is simply abuse of power. Abuse of power for the unionist cause is exactly what that electorate want and expect.
It is what they are used to.
“Which means the nationalist support for this device is damaging causes that nationalists support, including a language act, which parties like the Greens and Alliance support.”
I suppose that proves the majority of the parties have moved to the middle ground and only unionism remains on the extreme wings led by the DUP.
They will benefit in the short term, so long as we don’t forget it.
Gives new meaning to Tiocfaidh ár lá don’t you think?
Yes Brian, they stopped the state sponsoring the 11 plus exams.
UUP, SDLP and Alliance going into opposition in the Stormont Assembly is rather bad news for Sinn Fein.
https://eurofree3.wordpress.com/2016/05/19/checkmate-stormont-style/
Just one example to support the point – BBC Northern ireland informs us that “Sinn Féin have lost a seat to the DUP on the Education Authority (EA) board following the assembly elections” going down from 3 seats to 2, while the DUP goes up from 3 to 4 .
Ultimately Ben, the results in NI don’t really matter.
Unless Dublin led, all Ireland unity is a non starter and the less interest from Dublin, the less interest there will be among the Irish citizens in the north.
This is why I have been saying, Sinn Fein need to hand over control of the party back to Dublin. Our future and whether or not this country will be reunited is down to the political parties in control of Dublin. It is time to let go and put our destiny and our hopes in their hands.
Only Dublin can reinvigorate the Irish citizens in the north to vote, whether we like it or not, our future or fate IS in their hands and presently that is a Fine Gael or unionist party with zero interest in Irish unity.
The demographics are on our side, when next there is a republican party in control of Dublin, I assure you, there will be a republican party in control in the north.
In the mean time, what difference will it make?
Unionism will still insult us, deride us, block every single thing they don’t like and put anti republicanism above all else including the economy.
That’s how it is, there is nothing we do about it other than remember it well for when unionism can no longer control a majority and there is an Irish majority throughout this island?
in particular, unionist actions should not be lost on the parties in Dublin or on the Irish citizens throughout this island. Perhaps Sinn Fein are playing it right after all, who knows.
Jude, Eastwood is a bright, ambitious young lad but, the one’s pulling the strings are his backroom team, a certain young man, graduate of political science at The Queen’s College being the key one worth watching.
I don`t know about Colum but Justin is a complete prick.
Having had a chance to see the footage of the Trudeau incident, it does seem to be a storm in a teacup.
The elbowing was clearly accidental and the whole scene was a bit of childish nonsense involving some NDP members blocking a Conservative member like a bunch of playground bullies.
Trudeau hardly covered himself in glory but I fail to see why Jude is clutching his pearls over some bad language. Especially after defending Gerry’s much more offensive faux pas so recently.