Before I begin I want to outline that I, as a young person (25), have no qualms with other young people standing for election. I think that in a society bragging of democracy, linked artificially to a state prepared to drop an atom bomb in “defence” of it, that people should put their views to test at the ballot box. However, when you know you have no chance of winning and when you also know that you have the endorsement of some extremely right-wing forces you claim to oppose, that’s a game-changer; naturally.
The announcement by the SDLP that they are going to stand a really rather pointless and unknown candidate in North Belfast against John Finucane came as no shock to me in the slightest. This is the party after all who wanted to stand Austin Currie against Bobby Sands in Fermanagh-South Tyrone, when the man was on his death-bed, to reinforce Thatcher’s policy of criminalisation. This is the party which was preparing to oust John Hume as leader over the Hume-Adams peace talks. This is the same group of individuals who brought down the Callaghan government and ushered in Margaret Thatcher, obtaining peerages in the process. Time after time, the Irish people have discovered a tendency within the SDLP that is all too willing to betray them. They wouldn’t just proverbially cut their grandmother’s throats for office, they would eat the old girl as well.
The interesting thing about it is that quite a number of individuals within the SDLP actually come from families who’s relatives are ex-republican prisoners, including some MLA’s. Yet they afford their support and efforts to a pro-Brit party which presides over routine discrimination against them. You really couldn’t get any lower than that like.
These people aren’t behind the door at all in their belief that a hierarchy of victims exists. And even if that is the case, the Finucane family would be at the very top of it. Yet McAuley et al., are reinforcing that rotten gut instinct right in their faces by electorally obstructing political recognition of the fact that an inquiry into Pat’s killing not only has mass support but is a long overdue promise. You would think this individual, who happens to be a lawyer himself, would empathise with the family struggles of another lawyer who was murdered over the course of his human rights work.
But it gets worse. One of the interesting and utterly disgusting things about the SDLP’s conduct here is that they know for a fact they can never win the seat – otherwise they would have stood the better known sitting MLA for the area, Nicola Mallon. So this is being done in spite of the fact that McAuley will poll a miserable number of votes – less than their MLA in the Assembly election. Who is he after all? What does he stand for? Does he have a track record on any of the big issues impacting North Belfast? Is he well known on the doorsteps?
Ultimately, this comes down to a rotten mindset within these people that if they can’t have the seats, then other nationalist candidates certainly won’t be given a better chance of winning them. In doing so, they have shown they care nothing about Brexit, when this move could result in a pro-Brexit MP being returned, and they care nothing about victims, clearly. What you need to do, and I say this to everyone in North Belfast and a far, including people not linked to any party but who sympathise with the Finucane family, is mobilise like it was the 1981 Hunger-Strike campaign again, working the shirts off of your backs to get John elected and help expose to the world shocking state-sanctioned murder of a Human Rights Advocate. Every right thinking and self respecting person needs to ensure that Mr McAuley loses his deposit over this lower than low ploy. For if you find the energy to get out the vote to the highest extent possible, not only will this be a verdict on Brexit (and a rerun of the referendum) but if enough republican MP’s are elected then there would be a legal/political basis for an immediate border poll on the reunification of our country. No matter what anyone says, this is the election of a lifetime for future generations.



hierarchy of victims-The Finucanes would be at the top-They are quite near the top in terms of public engagement already.Why is this?-what happened to equality or is that just a buzz word -every time I engage a member of Sinn Fein in Irish I nearly always have to give up as the do not understand it-Campaigning for a language they do not understand
As regards running a candidate with no change of winning-I believe Sinn Fein are running candidates in East Belfast and North Down-as indeed they should-at least be consistent when mentioning candidates with little hope of success
tá deireadh seachtaine go maith-if you do not understand this don’t bother going to Stormont next Saturday
Why is it you must have a proficient level of Irish to fight for the language act? Don’t people with no Irish at all, through no fault of their own, have a right to feelings on the issue, strong feelings about rights etc.?
It comes across as crazy elitist giving out about people “campaigning for a language they do not understand”. You might speak fluent Irish but I suggest there is much you don’t understand.
Absolutely 100% right Sorcha, looks like poor old Gaz has put his foot in it big time. Where gaeilge is concerned, in his/her case, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
‘tá deireadh seachtaine go maith-if you do not understand this don’t bother going to Stormont next Saturday’
As someone who speaks Irish,and a Sinn Féin member, I do not understand the meaning of this sentence. It made no sense to me.
In despair I went to google translate and it said ‘have a good weekend’
Now the first thing any learner is told is- do not use Google translate, it is rarely correct, and in this instance it is most definitely wrong.
If you want to say have a good weekend then say ‘Bíodh deireadh seachtaine deas agat’ or some variation of this.
I am reluctant to accuse you of pretending to be a Irish speaker and bluffing with Google Translate, and I am far from expert in the language, but I am starting to believe that there are many people using the language as a political weapon.
The backing of an Irish language act is backing the GFA and the rights of all our citizens not just the Irish language but other rights too. I have never heard SF say all their candidates / member where Irish speakers. This is so disappointing to hear this attitude you have (your last statement) cause there is a lot of people who find some Irish speakers to be snobs (not all) and that is the way you come across and all that does is alienate all Irish speakers. Thanks God the youth show non of this attitude and make non Irish speaker proud of them
“tá deireadh seachtaine go maith”
Must be some sort of code.
🙂
I understand exactly what you are TRYING to say here. I would suggest however, that if you are attempting to belittle someone elses language skills, you should make sure that your own structure is correct!
As an Irish language teacher and someone who has an enormous amount of passion for it, I don’t like to belittle anyone who uses it….any effort is welcome! I would love to know what gives you the right to berate others?
That Irish sentence has no meaning whatsoever.
Gaz represents a long standing group of what I can only call Irish language elitists and purists who would have been quite content if the language had remained a niche for people like themselves to periodically indulge themselves and who see it as a threat that so many of the working class are now speaking and learning the language.
Gaz and Co belong to that group of snobs who rejoice in picking holes in other peoples attempts to speak Irish, chastising them for a mispronunciation here or a fada left out there. We have seen some of them in action in Dáil Éireann, making fun of Gerry Adams’ use of Irish or newspaper correspondents like the slavishly pro-Brit Indo correspondent Ruth Dudley Edwards who delights in attacking Sinn Féin over their promotion of the Irish language.
Another delight of these people is to engage republican supporters in Irish and then brand it a great victory for their own political views over Republican politics, if their victim is unable to compete with their handpicked choice phrases. This is classic snobbery with absolutely no thought as to how such a situation may have come about or any recognition of the repression that was wrought on the Irish people through many centuries in order to cause such a situation where the language was almost wiped out.
Thankfully, the language is now enjoying a bottom up resurgence again – no thanks to Irish language elitists.
Is fearr Gaeilge briste ná Béarla cliste, mo cairde.
So if you take your argument to its logical conclusion If your not gay don’t support gay rights if your not a women don’t support women’s rights if you not disabled … etc etc
why keep droning on this election is about brexit.the majority voted for brexit over a year ago.
Bernie is absolutely correct, the so called Irish sentence is a google translation by Gaz, I very much doubt his/her proficiency in Irish! As for standing candidates in North Down and East Belfast, well it’s simple those candidates will not impinge on s pro Brexit pro equality candidate winning, in contrast the stoops on ground level have entered a candidate simply to stop SF winning thus ensuring the bigotry of Unionism persists! Gaz I suspect knows this full well and is probably a stoop him/herself!!
Google translate lol. Go on out of that will ye. Clown stoop caught out
I am certainly no SDLP supporter, nor would I describe myself as a “Shinner” though I voted for them at the last election, faute de mieux and will probably do so at the fortcoming election. But I do not believe in verbal abuse as epitomised in the word ‘stoop’.There are some đecent people in the SDLP though their strategy in Fermanagh-South Tyrone is deplorable.
Rumour has it, Brian, that there were some decent in the Udr and RUC too
I thought Jude had forbidden the use of words like “stoops” and “Provos ” in contributors posts.But obviously,young Mr Lavery and other posters on this topic are granted a greater degree of licence when at tacking the S D L P!So much for Equality and Respect!!
Argenta
You are wasting your energy.
‘Stoops’ gets a tut tut
‘Westbrits’ is fine
Misogyny such as ‘old trout’ and ‘old tart’ rate a tut tut
‘Whores’ is fine.
‘Provisional Sinn Fein’ gets you barred.
Go figure!
“You are wasting your energy.”
Alas it hasn’t stopped you using up the same ‘energy’? Go figure.
Wolfe tone
And what does your comment mean?Are even mildly dissenting voices not welcome on this blogspot? It seems that Jude is more tolerant than some of the contributing posters!
wolfie
Incorrect(as ever).
Since my comment was to Argenta I am confident it will be given reasonable consideration.
What else have you got?
“Since my comment was to Argenta I am confident it will be given reasonable consideration.
What else have you got?”
Eh?
wolfie
Comment to Argenta ≠ waste of energy.
Got it now?
Comment to wolfe tone on the other hand…
“Comment to Argenta ≠ waste of energy.
Got it now?
Comment to wolfe tone on the other hand…”
Eh?
Don’t tell lies, gio…
Jude
You are right.
The terms ‘old tart’and ‘old trout’ used about Ruth Dudley Edwards because she had the temerity to express her opinion, did not even get a tut tut from you.
“………….Ruth Dudley Edwards because she had the temerity to express her opinion, did not even get a tut tut from you.”
Good to see you using your ‘energy’ Gio defending hate filled bigots who regularly spout offensive utterances about some irish people. Alas, it depends whom she offends, isn’t that right Gio?
wolfie
I am defending the right to have an opinion without being subjected to misogynistic or other forms of abuse. Perhaps you don’t like that notion.
Now will Jude have anything to say about you calling RDE a hate filled bigot I wonder?
“I am defending the right to have an opinion without being subjected to misogynistic or other forms of abuse. Perhaps you don’t like that notion.”
Eh? What, freedom of speech? On the contrary I don’t mind if you and others voice offensive utterances.
“Now will Jude have anything to say about you calling RDE a hate filled bigot I wonder?”
I apologise if anybody has taken offence to my description of Edwards? Alas what is said can’t be unsaid but I will try to do better in the future. If it’s any consolation, anything I write on here about anyone, I would gladly say it to them face to face.
wolfie
Why don’t you set up your own blog where everyone is allowed to hurl abuse and indulge in childish namecalling.
The debate would not be very interesting but whatever works for you.
On Jude’s site however he has asked that commenters do not resort to abuse and namecalling, so why not give it a try?
“Why don’t you set up your own blog where everyone is allowed to hurl abuse and indulge in childish namecalling.
The debate would not be very interesting but whatever works for you.
On Jude’s site however he has asked that commenters do not resort to abuse and namecalling, so why not give it a try?”
But why would I want to do that when I am having so much fun here Gio? Are you not having fun? Btw, I sincerely hope you aren’t calling me ‘childish’? That would be abusive Gio. P.s who made you spokesperson for this blog?
“I apologise if anybody has taken offence to my description of Edwards? Alas what is said can’t be unsaid but I will try to do better in the future. If it’s any consolation, anything I write on here about anyone, I would gladly say it to them face to face.”
If so WT then why do you hide behind the mask of a pseudonym?
“If so WT then why do you hide behind the mask of a pseudonym?”
Why, do you wanna meet me or something Scott? Is that really all you have got? Btw, when you live in a society where the state is hostile to your views and beliefs and where the state can and does use the tools of that state to intimidate and force down your views then you will understand why I use a pseudonym. In saying that when I have ran into the bully boys of the state I have indeed said it to their faces, and they didn’t like it at all. Alas you just be thankful the state will never use its tools on you.
P.s just for the record, could you provide proof for this blog, of who you say you are?
Ah I see WT paranoia it is then.
No Scott, that’s abusive.(Gio? Gio? Anybody seen Gio?)
Tell me Scott, what would you advise if the state was actively intimidating you or your family? What would you do if the state was actively intimidating your employer or indeed your family’s employers?
P.s you didn’t answer the question? Are you hiding behind a pseudonym? Saying you are not doesn’t stand up……not even in a British court!
No harm WT but if the state wants to persecute you for expressing broadly republican views I doubt a pseudonym on this blog will save you unless Judes got some kind of fancy anti spyware that GCHQ can’t break.
Too true Scott, but one should at least make the state work for it, no point handing it to them on a plate is there now? Btw, any chance you answer the questions put to you?
Which question were you looking answered WT?
Eh, the questions(plural) I asked you obviously.
I agree, Brian. So hear this, guys: no more name-calling of ANY political party. Or the post gets it…
I presume this applies to bloggers such as Donal Lavery as well.He seems to have unfettered licence on this blogspot.
I wish Kevin was’nt banned from here as I would love to ask him about his assurance thatPBP would NEVER stand aside in North Belfast.It confirms my suspicion that Kevin WAS never PBP at all but a troll who has appeared on different sites over the years pretending to be SF oneminute,SDLP the next and now pbp.
SF didnt seem keen on stepping aside and letting anti brexit independents having a run at certain constituencies but expect everyone else to step aside for them strange that. I reckon SDLP will probably go for a pact soon enough as the old guard in both parties leave but they will need something in return. This year it was step aside in NB and FST and we will er not reciprocate anywhere. 2 yrs ago it was step aside in NB, FST, UB and EL and we will step a side in SB. Even the most one eyed shinner must realise that those proposals are laughable.
So SF who are bookies favourites in FST and close second favourites in NB should stand down in favour of an SDLP selected “independent”.The SDLP are 500 to 1 outsiders in both areas but demand that SF discard decades of vote building to please the redmondites.
Not being funny but a pact will only ever happen if both parties come to some agreement. One sided demands are unhelpfull. Similar pigheadedness from the DUP means they may kiss goodbye to South and East Belfast.
Fiosrach, I repeat that I dislike verbal abuse. I have no problem with political criticism.Not that hard to understand. Surely.
Surely. Not.
OK. You guys are managing to break into my Sabbath peace. NO. MORE. NAME-CALLING. Got it? Otherwise somebody is going to join unrepentant Kevin in outer darkness…