As some of you may know, I don’t like the Scottish National Party. They have a clandestine history of anti-Catholic, anti-Irish sentiment, while deploying a mantra of talking “left” but acting “right”. There are people naive enough out there to believe that an independent Scotland could have Tommy Sheridan or Jim Sillars as Prime Minister, when in reality it would be Nicola Sturgeon and her pro-market, pro-Monarchist ideas. But again I request, with due respect, that you do not confuse Scottish separatism with the heroic anti-colonial struggles of the Irish people. They are not and have never been the same thing. The Scots have twice requested a referendum on independence and will twice be afforded it, via democratic methods; when the Irish people voted for independence, in overwhelming numbers, they were drowned in a sea of blood and their country mutilated. It was a Scottish Protestant-extremist King who colonised Ireland in the plantation, and sent thousands of Scottish settlers across the water to usurp the Irish people. The Scottish House of Stewart was the most tyrannical regime ever towards the indigenous Irish people – who previously had been Gaelic, Catholic and free.
The SNP have never been supporters of Irish republicanism; when Irish prisoners were engaged in political protest in jail, the SNP could have easily asserted this demand from the UK Labour government who then needed their votes for survival. Instead, they voted to bring down the Callaghan government and usher in Margaret Thatcher – and look at all the “good” she did for Ireland, and Scotland for that matter. It’s a question of judgement, and these people, time after time, have proven themselves on the wrong side of both history and morality. Irish people naively “befriend” them via the association that “my enemy’s enemy is my friend”, when the reality is really quite muddied waters.
After the Brexit referendum, a number of SNP MSP’s and Jim Sillars revealed that they defied the party’s position and voted with their heads to leave the European Union. Why? Because they know that any future independent Scotland will not gain access to the European Union. You need a budget deficit of 3% or less of GDP, and Scotland’s is currently almost 10%. You must also join the single currency, and not many people quite fancy that good night; operating the “German pound”. Likewise, the Spanish, Italian and French governments have already said they would have to veto Scotland’s entry (particularly Spain) as it would simply fuel the separatist movements in each of those respective countries. So, if Scotland does have a vote to become “independent”, it cannot by European law gain entry to the EU while all those barriers exist. Don’t take my word for it, that’s what the President of the EU Commission, Council and Parliament have said before. Therefore, the whole basis of this second vote has nothing to do with remaining in the EU; it’s about advancing the neo-nationalist (not republican) cause within Scotland.
Now this is an important issue because it highlights to us all, particularly those folk who gullibly view the SNP through rose-tinted glasses, a serious error of judgement on the part of Nicola Sturgeon and her “associates” (including that great friend of Ireland, Rupert Murdoch). They are in effect arguing for Scotland to leave a more democratic Union (at least in Scotland’s case) and make savage public spending cuts just to qualify for membership of an even more undemocratic Union, where Scotland will have as much say as Greece or Portugal. They are advocating for a hard border between Scotland and England, that will cost both populations scores of billions of pounds in trade. They are advocating for a financialised economy like Scotland to lose the pound as its currency, which will cause many of the financial institutions employing Scots to depart for London. They want to ditch the British, who they do have sway over in securing numerous financial concessions for Scotland which England and Wales do not enjoy, to suffer agonising fiscal discipline under the Germans. It is absolutely bogus. It would bring about a deflationary, monetarist economic agenda, with two neo-liberal governments both sides of the then border. Scotland’s then ailing economy would be terribly bad news economically for Irish businesses exporting to it.
But what would be the best option for Scotland if it does vote to become “independent”? Well, it wouldn’t be the EU, where your laws and regulations are subject to unelected Commissioners and Directives, which wouldn’t be independence at all. It would ultimately have to be a nation-state with membership of the European Free Trade Association, where they would get some Single Market access (at a price). The currency arrangement would have to be one like the former Irish Punt, on a fixed exchange rate with the Pound Sterling, to allow for devaluation (to spend more money). That is the only context in which Scotland would have some exercise of sovereignty over its own affairs; but you have to balance that with the fact that a permanent Tory government in the remaining UK will ensure that all prospective investors are drawn to them, depleting Scotland’s indigenous tax-base and any measurable democratic control over capital.
The last time I tried pointing these facts out to people I was harangued with all sorts of insults and extreme people questioning my Irishness/agenda; When no amount of neo-nationalist sentiment regarding Scotland is going to produce a positive outcome for Ireland, ever. If Scotland exits the Union, that won’t be the beginning of the end of the British state, but rather the end of the beginning of it; a consolidation led by right wing forces (including the Tory/Unionist alliance) determined to interlock and centralise the remaining areas under the Crown, which will cause enormous damage to the peace process and prospects for Irish unity here. The Thatcherites will be in government forever, minus the Lothian progressive conscience. So in my considered opinion, with all due respect to the disposition of any readers, the best option for Scotland is that of a Federal UK, where it can have its own President, a quasi-constitution, greater budgetary powers, operate the pound and pursue a distinct foreign policy. Now that’s what’s going to happen, under either a Tory or Labour government after this election, whether Ms. Sturgeon likes it or not.


So you’re a Separatist when it comes to Narnia, but a Unionist when it comes to Britain?
I won’t be defined by some dissident lunatic like you. Scotland is not a colony and the Scottish voted to remain in the UK. The Irish people didn’t in 1918. Do the logic.
“dissident lunatic.
Aren’t your pieces published with a view of critique and exchanging opinions?
@ Donal.
You don’t exactly inspire a great image of this “new” Agreed Ireland if you descend into a shrieking pre-pubescent every time someone challenges your narrative, do you?
Jude, is it acceptable for one of your bloggers to refer to a questioner as a ‘dissident lunatic’?
I personally think your site would be better without such ignorant, pompous arrogance!
@ Sherdy.
Thank you.
It seems that Donal’s hysterical response tells it’s own story.
Ps. I’m with People Before Profit by the way – a party that Donal has repeatedly.attacked on this page. And then refuses to answer basic questions when challenged.
I’ve asked him to publicly debate his positions, but without success.
He clearly prefers to mudsling and shriek groundless abuse wildly, and then run away.
It’s quite pathetic really.
Kevin you are hypocritical again. Your sexist comments , derogatory names for politicians, use of the term Shame Feign and constant mudslinging show the level of your maturity.
Donal – why dont you just attack the questions or the counter argument that is presented by contributors in a reasonable and dignified manner. I notice in a previous blog you ask a contributor have they nothing better to do with their time. They take the time to read your blogs and have a right to critique it in the hope they can engage you. A while back you did similar to me. You went down the ad hominem route and refused to engage and started making it personal. The purpose of a blog article is to spark conversation as of which you seem incapable of doing. In the past you have attacked Jessica and anyone who questions your views. I don’t read your blogs as a result. This is simply advice to you.
Well said.
I think the only chance of Irish unity will come when the English and Irish goverments want it to happen, then they will start the media propoganda push to win the vote for unity . By Scotland leaving the union this will weaken and break up the UK therefore Westminster would seize their chance to offload the north as well. It will be the drive of English and Scottish nationalism that will be the end of the UK.
If the English public was to discover that Narnia costs them £10 billion a year, they would drop-kick it to Iceland.
This is true Kevin, and something that needs to be exploited ,wonder what the cost would be to send a letter to every household in England letting them know the truth about their government’s expenditure and futility in holding on to the 6 counties ,and asking them to contact their local MP for answers. this might get the ball rolling in London.
This is true Kevin, and something that needs to be exploited ,wonder what the cost would be to send a letter to every household in England letting them know the truth about their government’s expenditure and futility in holding on to the 6 counties ,and asking them to contact their local MP for answers. this might get the ball rolling in London.
Pat the hat…..Population of UK is 65.14 million (2015)….and rising ; population of England itself is 53.01 million (2011) and rising ….It sounds like an awful lot of postage stamps , eh? First or second class then , sir?
OK 20 million households might be to much to cover but what about the DUP and their brexit campaign funded by wealthy pro brexit businessmen ,maybe wealthy pro Irish unity supporters would fund billboards or newspaper adverts promoting the reunification of Ireland ,at least it might get the conversation going in different circles.
Would this literature be allowed to be promoted outside an election period?
Harry.
I believe the best way of getting a message across to the English is to charter a big bus.
Red preferably.
And Made in Germany.
then paint the side with dodgy stats.
The English fall for it all the time, apparently.
For a start Scotland has three/four distinct cultures and identities one which like Ireland is Gaelic mostly in the Highlands and Islands, the Lowland Scots some of whom a very long time ago colonised parts of Ireland, and the Scandanavian culture of Shetland, Orkney (and one time Inse Gall)
So it is overlysimplistic to say ‘It was a Scottish Protestant-extremist King who colonised Ireland in the plantation, and sent thousands of Scottish settlers across the water to usurp the Irish people.
Ireland’s historical assosiations with Scotland go back a long way and involve colonisation in both directions, as well as a shared language and culture, shared kingship and in some cases shared enemies depending on what part of history you are talking about. Indeed the name ‘Scotland’ means the land of the Irish.
Regarding independence Scotland tried on many occasions to regain its independence until the Gaelic chieftains were finally defeated in 1745. Scotland has already had two independence referendum one in 1979 and one in 2014. On the first occasion the ‘yes’ side won the day but Scotland was never granted independence.
I don’t like some of the decisions that the SNP not least over-ruling the Aberdeenshire Council on Trump’s Gulf Course. However I do not subscribe to George Galloways outlook as outlined in Belfast before the 2014 referendum. I heard George on his radio programme being less that gracious regarding the Scottish Gaelic language and culture for which Irish speakers have a special affininty. And I think that he opposes Scottish Independence for reasons best known to himself.
I read your article Donal before I went out to do a gig tonight with two SNP voting musicians, both Presbyterians. I discussed with them the SNP´S history of bigotry and asked them if your analysis of the present day SNP was fair. They both opined that the anti Irish bigotry was firmly in the past and alluded to the fact that many Scottish Catholics have switched to the SNP from the Labour party. Now, maybe this is wishful thinking on their behalf, I don´t know, but don´t you think they are on a journey of self discovery concerning their place in the world. I can only speak for the Scots that I know, and maybe they are an enlightened few, but they all have an admiration for Ireland and would be supportive of our aspirations regarding a United Ireland.
Anyway, your article provoked an interesting debate and it would be fascinating to know if the present day SNP Nationalists have some of the old attitudes or not.